Same here <3 <3 <3 well done to you and anyone else here who has dealt with this kind of thing and learned to recognize it.
Another tip for anyone reading this who may be earlier in the process: A really great therapist once told me that while dating you should never reveal that you have an abuse history, because some people really like that and are even testing for it in a potential partner. She said you should act as if youâve always been treated really really well, and only after lots of vetting and being with the person exclusively for a substantial amount of time (like 6 months), should you confide in them and explain why you werenât up front initially.
It is very telling that early in the conversation Jeff said his wife had dealt with much worse than him, and that thatâs why he knew she would deal with what he was doing.
I know!!! My husband saw her in Manhattan once and was like OMG ARE YOU JANE KRAKOWSKI and she was just like, âyes, I am.â And then he just gawked for a minute and then texted me
I wonder why he didnât. I mean obviously I donât know him but based on what types of things upset him (i.e. very minor judgments and slights, thin skinned stuff IMO) I get the sense he doesnât have a lot of experience in this area. I did notice he used the word âtacticâ, which was telling, but IDK if he really grasped the extent of how bad this was. Or maybe heâs afraid of scaring other people off from calling in.
Remember the mysogyny we were calling out a few episodes ago? I have to give Ramit at least a little bit of credit that the guy did not snow him complely. He suggested therapy, including an individual therapist for her, and a post-nup.
I was kind of disappointed that a good part of the episode was about getting rid of the financial planner. Did he feel like if he focused on the guy too much heâd put Lisa in immediate danger?
I wonder if he ever outright suggests divorce. The closest I remember him coming was the couple where she was doctor and wanted to buy a house, and the husband wasnât willing to let go of the business heâd started that had been six months from becoming profitable for like five years.
This one was triggering for me too. Thank you for all of the insights you shared @AllHat. Iâd never heard the one about not revealing an abuse background while dating, that is really good.
Very true! He did seem to catch onto this more. And I was so glad he suggested individual counseling and a post-up. Maybe youâre right. It hadnât occurred to me that he was playing it soft in order to potentially protect her from the fallout if he was straight up like, âyou are being abusive and manipulative.â
This was something that occurred to me too but (and this might be uncharitable of me) given his âis there something all women know that make them afraid theyâll be abandoned without any money?â I think he just missed this. Unless maybe someone has sat down with him and had a real heart to heart since then, or taken him to a womenâs shelter where they see that regularly.
Come to think of it, I would be tempted to chip in to a kickstarter or something to pay someone who literally deals with financial abuse and/or therapy for domestic abuse survivors for their job to talk to him and share stats with him. That person should definitely not have to deal with him for free. It would be really interesting to hear him do a podcast episode about that, though of course itâd be different from his existing format.
Then again I also want him and his wife to get micâd up and go to Target so she can be like âWhere did you think all the paper towels and soap came from?â Maybe thatâd be a good baby step first.
My immediate thought also upon seeing that Sydney had screened this couple. I want to take a bet she upward managed him into how he handled this episode.
Ramit does not know how to use internet search functions to find financial TV shows or podcasts
We must learn to spend extravagantly on things we love (unless they are Target XD )
I shouldnt drive around to save $2 on blueberries. I wonder what Ramit would say if he knew how much I spend on blueberry plants every springâŚ
I have to spend ALL of my guilt free money every month. But not at Target.
Totally agree about his point that you should actually check whether renting or owning makes sense in your region. The way he illustrates this point is actually something I think he does really well.
Hotels are Ramitâs Target.
Pretty sure I hit jackpot of spouses with Ponder, if I compare to most of the people on his show
Shared vision is everything! Also no Target.
That felt kinds disjointed from reading the transcript. Unsure what it sounds like.