Covid-19 discussion

The articles that I have read about whether or not it makes sense to swab the throat are confusing to me. The tests that have been available to me (at least four different brands for the home tests I have on hand or have taken) are all designed for swabbing nasal passages, and I have no idea if the saliva Ph being different in the mouth invalidates these particular tests. And if so, would it cause a false positive, or a false negative?

It seems that other countries (I am US based) have tests available that are designed for swabbing the throat or swabbing both throat and nasal passages. (Then there is the question of whether or not to swab the nasal passage and the throat in one test, or separate swabs and separate tests, or separate swabs but combined tests, etc). Iā€™m trying to keep up with guidance and science and want to be taking home tests in the most effective manner possible!

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I can say it took a sneezing fit while the swab was up my nose for me to test positive (I wouldnā€™t recommend, fyi) despite swabbing to the point of a bloody nose before that just. In my case we were all pretty certain I had it since sibling and siblingā€™s spouse both did and I had some (thankfully minor) symptoms, but with a dry nose Iā€™d probably look for a test that allowed a throat swab if I was hunting again.

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I do not know the details of how she tested. We are in the US, so it definitely would have been a matter of her just taking a test designed for the nose but gagging herself with it.

Last month, I finally got the positive I needed to get antivirals (after my oxygen saturation started dropping) by taking a US-standard nose test and swabbing first throat, then nostrils with it. Before that Iā€™d tested negative three times despite the symptoms.

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I just saw something on the news saying that soon covid shots and treatment are going to stop being free and paid for by the government. I guess it couldnā€™t go on forever.

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Yes, I read that yesterday.

Iā€™ve seen some anecdotes that adding acid (orange juice or Coca Cola) to the testing liquid can cause a false positive, and that the pH if your throat is different from your nose and therefore might flag a false positive (especially if youā€™ve eaten or drunk anything in the last 30 minutes). Because of all that, I havenā€™t tried a throat swab (even though Iā€™ve aaaaalmost done it 2-3 times) because I still wouldnā€™t trust either a negative OR a positive off it.

If the point is to get a positive test for early paxlovid prescription in the case that Iā€™m 95% sure I have covid than Iā€™d definitely do a throat swab.

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Iā€™m at the point now where reading this kind of thing about COVID makes me mad.

Like thanks? I guess? Is science important? Yeah. I get that theyā€™re going to study this thing forever. But thereā€™s something about the way this is framed that irks meā€”like now that COVID has become so difficult to detect itā€™s the average personā€™s fault itā€™s spreading because weā€™re not all testing after every single social thing? But my own damn employer will ask/make anyone with COVID go to the office after just 5 days, even if theyā€™re still testing positive, per the CDC? So uhhhh

Idk. Iā€™m not even making sense to myself so Iā€™ll see myself to bed now

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I suspect Iā€™m one of those people, because itā€™s just so unlikely that I havenā€™t gotten COVID by now! One time I got some cold symptoms but didnā€™t test positive.

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Same. I think I heard that if you donate blood they check (or used to anyway) for covid antibodies or something and Iā€™m very slightly tempted to try just because I feel like we must have been exposed at some point by now. I donā€™t know if thatā€™s still true, though, or of theyā€™re testing a useful thing.

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There is evidently a Covid antibody test that you can buy at the pharmacy. I havenā€™t done so, and as far as I know I havenā€™t had Covid, but I read the sign every month when I pick up my bag of free tests.

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Antibody tests are definitely useful, thatā€™s how I knew my March 2020 infection was covid. But youā€™d have to get it done relatively soon after your suspected case, within a few months. Iā€™m not sure exactly when my antibodies went away but they were gone after month 11.

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I thought people who had been vaccinated also generated antibodies. Wouldnā€™t everyone whoā€™d been vaccinated test positive on the antibody tests?

We donā€™t keep all the antibodies out all the time. Once weā€™re get an infection/illness then our immune system can go ā€œoh, itā€™s that thing, I know how to fight that thingā€ if weā€™ve had that virus before or been vaccinated, and then it produces the specific white blood cells for that thing. After the illness passes those cells eventually will go away. Thereā€™s hundreds of different ā€œcommon coldā€ viruses so if we had all the white blood cells out all the time I imagine my veins would be pretty crowded.

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The vaccines generate antibodies specific to the spike protein they are protective against. An illness can result in additional antibodies so itā€™s possible to test for each separately.

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What Sunflower said. When I got my results back from the Red Cross it had the spike antibodies listed separately than the capsid antibodies (capsid is the protein shell that the spike protein is attached to). So I was positive on spike because thatā€™s what the vaccine is against but negative for capsid because I hadnā€™t yet had covid

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Whoa, kind of a wild mental image!!!

Of the 210 people who likely contracted the omicron variant ā€” based on antibodies in their blood ā€” 56% percent did not know they had the virus, the researchers found.

They also found that only 10% of those who were unaware reported having any symptoms relating to a common cold or other type of infection.

I know they have more research to do but Iā€™m curious what this means in terms of long Covid for people that had antibodies and didnā€™t even report experiencing cold symptoms. Iā€™d have to imagine that theyā€™re much less likely to experience long Covid because their body obviously didnā€™t have a significant reaction at the time? If someone fifty years from now could come back in a time machine and tell us that would be spiffy.

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I would imagine so, too.

PLEASE

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