Covid-19 discussion

This article from the Seattle Times did a good write up of how Oregon differed and it seems like currently it was the right call

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/the-verdict-is-in-on-who-did-the-vaccines-right-washington-or-oregon-hint-it-wasnt-us/

@anon51297825 I think the big concern was that a lot of the younger kids attending schools live in multi-generational households, and might bring it home to an unvaccinated grandparent. I’m not sure if we have decent amounts of data on that yet since most haven’t been fully reopened? Also…I think we know that kids are less likely to transmit?

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HOLY SHIT

Ah! That is controversial. We switched to a purely age-based system (excluding teachers and anyone working in a school or driving a school bus, etc, who are part of a separate effort) before like… everyone else (except I think CA? Maybe? Or Maine? IDK. Somewhere where it got overturned.) which is also controversial. Wah wah. At this point it feels like EVERY decision is controversial and going to upset someone. I secretly hope it doesn’t get overturned here before I am eligible, at the end of the month, even though I will likely wait a few weeks to look for an appointment, because like ReliableOtter I work at home and spend 99% of my time here, and my limited grocery store/hardware store/nursery trips are very manageable and feel safe at out current rates. The individuals working in public facing jobs need it more than I do. (I do have some small amount of possible risk, but not CDC-designated levels of risk.)

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I know. I 100% do not believe it, will be pleasantly surprised if true. Mentally I have decided to plan on having it by July, so anything sooner will be fabulous.

100% because we all have no idea what to do and we’re just doing our best!

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I believe this in general as well, however, a HUGE percentage of deaths in my state were in the over 75 age group in group settings. Like, nearly all. Over 80% maybe? A LOT. (I could look it up.) So I disagree that the very senior age group should not have gotten priority.

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We got this Sesame Street book called washy wash out of the library and it actually reflects my kid’s life and I really appreciate that about it.

I, as a whole, feel better having read it.

Gifts received last year of books called Leo loves Baby Time and Leo goes Swimming are both hurtful, triggering and confusing.

Getting less confusing thoughm

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Yeah, that concern makes sense. It was addressed in the Chicago article too, basically saying students who live with at risk adults should consider virtual instruction.

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But I said who don’t live in group settings.

I think nursing homes should be first priority.

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The problem is that there is a staggering amount of overlap between kids that have issues accessing remote instruction (internet speed/computer/scheduling/taking care of siblings) and kids that live in multi-generational households.

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Did ANYWHERE not prioritize nursing homes? I’d be interested to see if that differed. I think they were first on the list after health care workers every place.

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Yep.
The pandemic has exacerbated all kinds of inequity.

And very few politicians have been interested in balancing it out.

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Oops, sorry, I misread! I thought you said IN group settings.

I think average people of any age who are able to quarantine should do so, regardless of age. It’s not really any greater burden unless you are a senior person needing home aid (or not a senior but needing home aid). (As in, someone from outside needs to come help you (even if not specifically “heath care” home aid, just… needing help) and you are therefore potentially exposed. )

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No, I don’t think so. I think CalBal just misread what I wrote.

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Someone needs to do a data visualization by state and country of how prioritizations have varied. Could spin that up in D3 after some data cleaning…

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Yup, sorry, reading too fast!!

An area where I can weigh in! I work in education policy, and the communication around this stuff has been an absolute mess. The short version is that the initial guidance that 6 feet is needed in classrooms was an incorrect interpretation of the research, and they’ve updated the guidance based on a more accurate understanding of the research findings out there. That is to say, this is in response to a clearer understanding of what was found in the research, not that they’re ignoring research findings.

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Our large urban school system has always been 3 feet between kids and has a really minimal case load, much lower than the county as a whole.

I don’t understand though how for the last, like, two weeks, they keep showing a decline in cases of like 8-10% while the actual number of cases is perfectly flat.

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My GP clinic is registered as a Covid vaccination site and sent an email saying that they expect to start doing vaccinations by the end of the month. I thought I had read much a much later date in the news. I hope the roll out is quick.

As a reasonably healthy youngish person I’m waaay down the priority list. My mum is in the first priority group though.

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86% of the fatalities in Ohio were in people 65+, so yeah the risk factor is way different as you get older. And lots of people in the 60s and up are still working.

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My state (Massachusetts) has made K-12 Teachers, Child Care workers, and School staff eligible for the vaccine as of today and six (I think) vaccination sites will have dedicated educator only days, four days a week!

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My parents (age 73) just got their second vaccine dose. :tada::tada::tada: My father works very part time, so this is a relief.

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