About 6 hours after my shot, and my arm hurts a bit. Nothing else yet.
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I got a surprise text from my county health department to come in today for my first shot. There was a steady stream of people coming and going and it all was planned well. Was in and out in an hour. My state is not doing well (consistently in the bottom 5), but my county has been rocking it. Iâm in the 50-65 with medical risks group and they opened it up to us Monday.
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I am DELIGHTED by how many people are getting vaccinated on this thread. (Because I want you all controlled by the microchip too, of course 
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My mother in law got the Johnson and Johnson vaccine yesterday. She reports that her arm is sore, and thatâs it so far for side effects. Sheâs the first person I know who got the J&J vaccine, Iâm glad sheâs doing well.
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They just opened up United Center appointments to anyone who lives in certain very hard-hit and low-income zip codes. Seems to be regardless of age (as long as over whatever the minimum is - 16? 18?) or job or health.
Thatâs not me. But Iâm glad they saved spots for those areas (which are probably also in the pharmacy deserts that we were just talking about upthread.)
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Iâm curious about statistics on how many people are fully vaccinated. My state (Maryland) shares statistics on how many people have had their first and second doses (I suppose theyâre counting J&J as both, but itâs not super clear), labeling those who have had their second doses as âfully vaccinated.â That differs from the CDC definition of âfully vaccinatedâ as 2 weeks past final dose, which makes more sense to me. Does anyone know where I can see statistics that show the CDC definition of âfully vaccinatedâ?
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I was just schooling my brother on this!
Here is the site from the CDC which has their vaccine tracker https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/index.html
32.9M people in the USA have received their complete series of a vaccine.
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WUT.
âthe new rules are needed for a rapid return to the classroom.â Oh, OK then.
Can someone with more scientific knowledge than me weigh in on whether this is BATSHIT FUCKING INSANE?
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Since this is with a vaccinated staff, and Iâm assuming still wearing masks, it seems to be inline with guidelines the CDC has been releasing about how those with vaccines can interact with those who are not vaccinated and what we know about transmission in schools (that there has been very little, and children are as a whole a low risk group).
Iâd be more concerned as a parent of a high schooler (which is essentially an unvaccinated adult) than a parent of an elementary schooler (kids do not seem to catch covid at the rates adults do).
I say this as a parent of a child in a daycare where there is no social distancing (though theyâve added sneeze guards to the lunch tables when their masks are off, but I doubt those do anything), but mask wearing by those 3+.
If my kid had a pre-existing condition, I donât think I would be sending them to school.
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Yeah⌠a lot of teachers havenât been able to get the vaccine yet though. Particularly in Chicago and Cook County. So⌠will it vary by classroom? Ms. X who teaches 2nd grade is vaxxed so itâs 3 feet in there, but Mr. Y who teaches 4th grade isnât so maintain 6 feet in there?
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Oh, this is fuct too.
So, basically, the city of Evanston (right over the Chicago border, where I used to work when we were in-person) has its own health department. This, apparently, means that Evanston residents are ineligible to get vaxxed at the countyâs mass vaxx sites. Theyâre being turned away. United Center, which is federal, is also no-go now because they changed that to be Chicago residents only.
Yet Evanston is getting a TINY supply of vaccine weekly. Like, 1,000 doses a week. (That seems low for a large suburb? IDK, maybe thatâs normal?)
Mostly they can do seniors and frontline workers and that is it. Most teachers will not be able to get a first dose for at least a month.
So, theyâre even worse off than Chicago is. 
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Well the article says 3-6 feet for students and fully vaccinated staff.
So it seems like the school would either not open without fully vaccinated staff, or would be classroom by classroom, which seems like an organizational nightmare, but if students are still rotating classrooms, then I suppose some classrooms would just have desks further apart than others based on if staff is vaccinated. It might even mean reassigning teachers based on which grades have more students. (In non-pandemic times my friend, a 10-year veteran 8th grade teacher was moved to a kindergarten classroom. Because thatâs what they needed and her license allowed it. So it wouldnât be a new thing. This was in TX though, so Chicago Unions might not allow rearranging like that.)
But the closer distance does rely on vaccination.
Our schools have been open since the fall. There have been quarantines, but Iâve heard of no outbreaks. Everyone is required to wear a mask. They play (most?) sports in masks. In my district students have the option of virtual learning. My understanding is not all districts did that, and if yours didnât you had to pull the kid out an enroll them in something like connections academy or homeschool.
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This week my state expected to receive 137k doses for a population of 3.5 million. Thatâs ~4% of population (since it is population based). This weekâs doses have increased from last weekâs due to greater availability of the J&J vaccine.
My state is near the top of success in terms of getting people vaccinated and not wasting doses.
Google says Evanston has a population of 74k? If so,1000 doses is ~ 1.5% population. However, is it actually 1000 doses? Dose availability went up this week. 3000 doses is around 4%. If it is closer to 3000 doses I would say that is par for the course.
Edit: 1.5% of population.
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Per the mayor, âIDPH has projected that Evanston will receive 1,200, 1,400 and 1,200 first doses over the next three weeks.â
He doesnât say how many second doses.
That⌠doesnât sound like a lot.
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Thatâs weird, also it is weird they expect the number to go down, ours is expected to go up week over week. 1400 is around 2%. Is it possible teachers are being vaccinated from a different source? Many places have teachers receiving doses from a different stream, including my state, and (at least parts of, I believe) California (per one of my friends who is a high school teacher in the Bay Area).
Hm, actually, maybe it is closer to average, if that number only includes first doses but there are second doses that are an undisclosed number. Our numbers are always just reported in terms of doses (regardless of if they are first or second doses).
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From what I understand, theyâre continuing pre-vaxx rules in any school where they havenât had fully vaxxed staff. In Oregon, the govâr actually put the educators ahead of older adults, moving them ahead of the vax line in January (something a lot of people arenât happy with) in order to have a complete return to in-person by March 29th statewide for K-8 (with remote options).
We already have a very high drop out rate in our state, and essentially theyâre extremely concerned about coming up on a year of having schools closed. We also have dropping covid numbers here.
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Pushing teachers up is being promoted in a lot of places, getting schools open is a huge priority here especially in areas that have less than ideal education outcomes at higher grades, and just in general for young kids (who generally really struggle with distance learning as do their parents).
They are pushing opening the schools in my friendâs district after spring break, but most of the teachers wonât get the second dose until early-mid April (she only got her first dose last week) so they likely wonât really have immunity until May. But thatâs the goal.
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Here, we have such a high rate of anti-vaxxers (weâre the OG liberal white anti-vaxers) that they expect every willing Oregon adult to be able to get it by April 21st. Never gonna have herd immunity in oregon, though, I worry.
The push to open schools has been happening everywhere, but if Iâm not mistaken weâre one of the only states that halted vaccines for older adults entirely to educators first. Itâs been quite controversial, because we have 25 year/old educators getting the vaccine while 80 year olds werenât eligible.
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I think prioritizing educators makes sense, after elderly who live in group settings.
If a 30-40 year old can be expected to stay at home, so can an 80 year old. In the meantime, that 25-year old needs to be working with upwards of 90 kids a day. It makes sense for them to be vaccinated.
But thatâs just me.
Itâs one of the reasons Iâm not even trying to find an appt right now. I work at home, and can continue to isolate. Iâm trying to find one for my husband though, since he does not work at home.
I have serious doubts that any part of the US will be able to reach herd immunity. And until we can vaccinate children, thatâs a huge problem. And efficacy of vaccines relies on herd immunity. Having it yourself is only so goodâŚeveryone needs it.
I effing hate anti-vaxxers. Not just this vaccine, all of them.
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