Covid-19 discussion

Your mom is a sweetheart.

@TrisPrior I am sorry. :frowning:
@rural - thatā€™s sad and unfortunate for the communityā€™s access to dental healthcare. :persevere:

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The lag is annoying, but I thought this video did a great job of explaining some of the testing weirdness you see with covid:
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CHlOc61hx3P/?igshid=tpzq8xpmj5gi

Eta and why previously infected people should be categorized no differently than anyone else pursuant to risk level for addition to your bubble.

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I also feel like covid is closing in and like Iā€™m gonna get it pretty soon. But. I am SO GLAD the vaccine is starting to be rolled out!

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Uggggh. Just tried to talk with my mom about Christmas. She wonā€™t talk about it. Like, actually said ā€œthis makes me sad, I donā€™t want to talk about itā€ and started crying, yet they still are planning to come here.

No.

So I told her that I do need to talk about it because if they insist on coming here even ā€œjust to drop off giftsā€ I refuse to have a visit where Iā€™m the bad guy bitching at everyone about masks and distancing and staying outside and making sure Bobbin canā€™t go hug them. I refuse for all that to be solely on me. I fucking hate this mentality. If we could talk about it I could find ways to make it nice and it would soothe my anxiety about them and little bro coming. Little bro and I had a frank discussion about it and he said basically that itā€™s my house, my rules and he will do whatever I ask and he understands that I have to be careful. Idk why expecting the same from my mom is too much.

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If you know when they are coming, can you just not be home?

Itā€™s so hard when people wonā€™t respect boundaries.

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I donā€™t know when theyā€™re coming yet, but theyā€™ll tell me when they plan to come eventually.

If I canā€™t have a conversation with them about it then they can come here, drop off gifts on our sidewalk and leave. Or not come at all, I donā€™t care about the gifts. If I can talk to them then Iā€™d be ok with having them on our back deck as long as everyone stays in masks and stays apart and I get absolutely zero shit about not being able to touch Bobbin. I know I will get ugly if I have to be the covid precautions police.

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That all puts you in such a terrible spot; Iā€™m so sorry :frowning:

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boundaries (cut because I ramble a bit)

Setting AND receiving boundaries feels so unnatural to me, and never fails to ā€œfeelā€ personal. I keep practicing, but itā€™s still so hard. It seems to be hard for many, many people. I keep seeing people walking back their boundaries the moment it gets uncomfortable, including boundaries around keeping themselves and their families safe in the pandemic. For some reason itā€™s easier to value another personā€™s comfort over oneā€™s own safety.

I get emotionally expressive (reactive) quickly when I try to defend boundaries. Feelings get hurt. I donā€™t know how to avoid that with certain people in my life, especially my mother. You have all of my empathy on figuring this out. Iā€™m sorry you are being denied the chance to discuss it proactively and feel set up to be the bad guy. It sucks.

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MIL and SIL are going to come out to ā€œdrop off presentsā€. From philly, on the interstate (well, turnpike), with windows open in the car. Frostbite oā€™clock.

Also, weā€™ve been very clear with them that theyā€™re not coming within 6 feet of us or inside the house for any reason. I have a feeling theyā€™re not going to respect that and Iā€™m going to have to get surly.

I used to not mind being the bad guy, but Iā€™m getting tired of it.

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IT ME.

I know my mom is hurting right now. I would be too locked in a house with my dad and that much Fox News. Blahhhhhh

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My mom said itā€™s ā€œkilling herā€ to have not seen us for almost a year. She did ask what she could do to make us comfortable with the idea of her coming to stay with us overnight (itā€™s a far enough drive that it doesnā€™t make sense for her to drive up, visit for an hour, then drive home) since weā€™ve said weā€™re not comfortable with hotels. Iā€™ve been trying to figure out if we could say ā€œTake a test of X type, quarantine for Y days, then take the rapid test to confirm a negative and you can drive here as soon as you get the negativeā€ but itā€™s been almost three weeks that Iā€™ve been thinking about this and I just canā€™t bring myself to say that Iā€™m okay with that. I would be freaking out the entire visit - did they really quarantine or was there a quick run out for something from the store? Or someone in the hallway of their building that they chatted with for ā€œjust a minuteā€? The alternative is doing a few more (admittedly shitty) months just like the past nine shitty months, honestly that just seems like the safer choice.

Then thereā€™s also the can of worms that if we let her visit with those rules we feel like we have to let the other grandparents know those same rules so they can come visit, so then itā€™s this other whole can of worms (in-laws donā€™t think this is a big deal and probably havenā€™t been wearing masks if I had to guess, and why yes they do watch Fox News a lot how did you guess?).

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One of the many things that sucks so so so much about this whole thing is that I feel like I canā€™t ever trust someone to have really quarantined. There are too many ā€œjust for a minuteā€™sā€ and ā€œI quarantined except forā€™sā€ and I feel like the spread is so high that those little lapses have a greater chance of ending badly, you know?

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Yep. And trying to tell a parent ā€œI donā€™t trust your judgementā€ does NOT generally go over well. :neutral_face:

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Iā€™m so sorry, yā€™all. I donā€™t fully trust my familyā€™s quarantine (mostly because medical appointments that were actually urgent, but also SIL is still going to more than one grocery store). We went to them and then stayed outside/away. Easier to control, and I only had to sneak off into the woods to go pee myself, not tell my mother she had to do that.

But also they are trying really hard and understand, so it was just differing levels of comfort (they are eating food they didnā€™t prepare themselves; I have not since March). I donā€™t know how Iā€™d handle it if they didnā€™t believe in the pandemic at all. No, thatā€™s not true. Iā€™d change the access code to the gate on our property so they couldnā€™t get in (no way my mom could make that hike). But Iā€™m glad I donā€™t have to think about it.

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I stayed in my motherā€™s house. I did not quarantine or test, I go to work in person, and I flew. I was a much greater risk to her than she was to me, and she really insisted that I should come.

We masked whenever we werenā€™t eating/drinking and stayed six feet apart when we were.* We hugged only once the whole time, and it was masked. When there were other guests like Grandma, we were both masked and outdoors. After Grandma left we did take off our masks outside.

*Except when I drank Jack Daniels until I threw up and my sister put me to bed. So, maybe donā€™t drink straight whisky if you are socializing. Pro tip.

I think when it comes to family, itā€™s really about personal risk tolerance. I didnā€™t bring my kids or husband and I didnā€™t go to my nieceā€™s little covid wedding, I only went for the ash-scattering.

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Little old greyhaired lady privilege in action: I may have just told the maskless wonder staring at my respirator in the farm supply store* that ā€œpeople like you are the reason I have to wear this.ā€ He did at least have the grace to hang his head and shuffle his feet as I sailed past.

*Have to go in just to the register to pay for propane cylinder exchange. Wish I could find an alternative, but thatā€™s true at WalMart and the dollar store as well, and those are all the places where thereā€™s exchange available around here. At least the farm supply is partly open to the outside.

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Co-workerā€™s son just got a positive COVID test. They live in Texas and all the kids have been active on sports teams.

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The vaccine got FDA approval.

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My alumni magazine came yesterday. Usually there is 1 page of obits. This time there are over 5 pages of obits. :frowning:

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Holy crap. :woman_facepalming:t2::sob:

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