Bridgerton

I hadn’t noticed the timeline issues. Good eye, ducky.

I kind of like that not every woman is motherly and they are mostly not condemned for it. They all have a duty to have babies and don’t have the bodily autonomy or healthcare to avoid it anyways, but giving birth, handing off the baby, and getting on with your life is acceptable. That seems historically accurate. Violet Bridgerton loves babies but she’s the only woman in this series who does, from what I can see. I can’t remember another tv show or movie where women who aren’t into kids are allowed that preference with little judgement.

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Yes, i liked that it was clear the duty was bearing the children, and actually the other duty was running the household/ managing the servants. You’re absolutely right that there was no shame for not being maternal! :+1::+1: From me

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How much sex is in it so far? My mom has been making noises about watching it together, but I don’t want to have to awkwardly squirm next to her while there’s on screen oral in a library or something.

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Surprisingly little. Much less % of the show is naked people than the other series.

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The first two episodes are safe-ish. Three not so much.

Episodes 1 through 3

I think the first sex scene is Lady Danbury’s head thumping against the headboard while she looks bored out of her mind while her husband grunts.

Second is two male servants making out and stripping each other hurriedly while talking about their respective … nobles? charges? And there’s one last comment exchanged while one is laying on the bed shirtless and the other goes down out of frame but you know exactly where he’s going and then it cuts to another scene.

In episode three there’s one scene that’s discussed in the spoilers upthread, even the servants get awkward about it and have to rush out of a room abruptly and then there’s “panting” noises through a door while two servants casually talk about "so should I swing by your room later or…? :wink: ". Oh and then she shows up while he’s getting a bath, fusses with the ribbons on her nightgown and he says “Just get in” so then they fuck in his bath tub which I would 100% not want to watch with my mom next to me.

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“If I Ain’t Got You” by Alicia Keys ft. Queen Charlotte’s Global Orchestra

I want to take this video and use it to bludgeon anyone who has said that an orchestra must be men only, white only.

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That was wonderful!

Thats an excellent use of the video. Or really, you could use any of the orchestral instruments against them. But maybe like, cheap versions of the same thing.

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Early episode 6

Violet, OH NO.

Late episode 6

Brimsley dancing alone! :sob: :sob: :sob:

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https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/queen-charlotte-finale-ending-explained

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Including that Reynolds is definitely on vacation and still alive

For anyone that needs to do strategic viewing, the finale is over an hour (like 1:20 I think) and the ending will definitely make you cry.

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The very end

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I love it when older Charlotte smiles at George. I think it’s the only time in any of the shows that she has a real smile. It transforms her. She even giggles.

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Oh my god no one told me about the Brimsley story line :sob::sob::sob::sob:

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I think my favorite scene is Brimsely putting his hand out towards Charlotte in the hallway. Whew. Masterfully done

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I saw a spoiler section of the book that is so wonderful around that story line :heart: In reading the book now but haven’t gotten to it yet

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100% agree

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I KNOW!! See my spoiler two posts up though. The fans definitely want more of their story.

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A couple of interesting video essays I’ve come across are Queen Charlotte & The Bridgerton Problem by Princess Weeks and Black Aristocrats of 18th Century England & France by History Tea Time with Lindsay Holiday.

I’m listening to the Princess Weeks video right now and there’s already been multiple things I wanted to quote out here, including that Julia Quinn said she specifically did not include people of color in her novels because she wanted the characters to have happy endings. The real son of Queen Charlotte who became the next king was very much in favor of slavery and mocked abolitionists. Her argument is basically* hire Black actors and make the show about entertainment, trying to bring up racial issues without touching the ginormous elephant in the room that is the slave trade is doing a disservice several times over. One of the comments draws a parallel to to the 1997 Cinderella by Whitney Huston that has a white king, Black queen, and Asian son and no one questions it because everyone’s just there to enjoy a fun movie.

Edit: the Weeks video is just based off the trailer and came out before the show.

*At least so far, in the ten minutes I’ve watched so far.

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This is what Bridgerton reminds me of too, with the addition of sex

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The Mary Sue has an article up about Lady Danbury’s marriage and characterizes it as marital rape.

I want to disagree, but get an icky feeling when I try to parse out exactly why. Anyone else want to go in on the discussion with me?

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I mean, yes. She didn’t consent. But consent wasn’t a concept and the marriage contract required her to endure sex in exchange for economic and social stability. We all know this but seeing it in action like that made me uncomfortable. I felt so bad for my ancestors.

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