Yes, absolutely! I’m sorry if that was unclear for anyone- I tried to caveat that it is only my opinion and for sure other people have different standards.
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I’m bowing out of the thread now bc tbh I’m having a real time over here (entirely unrelated to this) and am feeling super out of my depth. I feel like I’m trying super hard to be careful with words but, unsuccessful - haha. FWIW The buy nothing convo came about originally because in the podcast Ramit said he didn’t think rich people should take free stuff other people could use, and I agree with that in general, so I was coming at it from that perspective. Totally just an opinion! I don’t think it violates any mission statements, etc, or that people are actively breaking rules or anything like that. I’m also completely fine with libraries and public transit and use both a lot- no issue from me there! Have funsies all!
ETA: No worries @Sunflower haha, but you will be target shamed if you go on the show, lol. I was thinking of stopping anyway because I’m worried about the impact. And honestly when I’m here on OMD a lot it’s when things are worst for me and I’m stuck, so usually everything I write is through a big haze of drugs and pain and that carries some potential issues with it. I like just, free writing without too much worry about how I state each thing, etc, and that’s probably not a good idea here. <3 <3 <3 But now I’m going to listen to the podcast and wonder each time if it’s you!!!
I’m sorry that things are so hard for you right now. I totally get that these are all just your opinions, and they’ve helped me reexamine some of my personal beliefs even if I don’t completely agree. I hope the pain lightens for you soon.
hope you feel better soon, and I always respect and appreciate hearing your opinions, even when they don’t align with mine (especially when they don’t align?) because it helps me reconsider stuff and hopefully become more empathic of different stances, or even change my mind because new info.
So sorry if I caused you to feel like you had to watch your words! I am not at all worried about anything you wrote; I think you are always thought provoking and I wish I could be as cool as you.
That being said, I totally understand the ‘i need to be done with this topic’ and have been there myself.
I’m at the higher end of the age range of these people, so I’m not them, but I understand them. I get it 100%. It’s been a tough few years and saving sometimes feels useless based on what we’ve lived through in our time as adults. I think the people I understand the most are the ones who aren’t even trying to pay off student loans. They just assume they’ll have the balance forever and make the minimum required payments (even if it’s just interest) and leave them be.
I was kind of thinking about this for myself recently. Like, what’s the point? Is the world really going to be here in 20 years? Will it be one I like? I’ve been planning to have my money outlast me, but… eh. Fear not, gentle reader, I’m not throwing caution to the winds, but I think I am going to start having a little more fun while there’s fun to be had.
@Sunflower Nooooooo! You (and everyone else here) did absolutely nothing wrong!!! You’re all fabulous. This is 100% a me thing and mostly had nothing to do with OMD specifically but more to do with just, internet talking in general, especially to people who haven’t heard how I am IRL or what my general vibe is. I was dealing with other super intense stuff and should have known better than to over extend myself socially, that’s totally on me. I just didn’t want to silently leave the conversation without saying anything bc I thought that would read like I was really upset, which I wasn’t at all! I just wasn’t able to keep going because I was getting genuinely confused and was already worn out from other stuff. I was asleep within like, minutes, of logging off. LOL.
Yeah, it totally feels understandable! So much standard financial advice is based around expectations and it’s obvious to my generation that the future isn’t going to look like the past. Sooo…how do you plan around uncertainty? I can’t really fault anyone for preferring to focus on what is under their control (their experience in the present) rather than try to wrangle with massive uncertainty.
I’ve been thinking about this a lot especially in regards to travel and seeing family - there’s a big opportunity cost to putting things off. I want to take advantage of my family being in good health while we’re able to.
I think this is a huge one we can all relate to after the last two years (I almost wrote “after the pandemic”).
I decided to go to India with Marmalade this year. I really don’t enjoy going but it’s been 5 years and would mean a lot to his mom (who is looking so much older now), and I would get to spend time with my SIL.
Thank you for being here in the middle of the night with me. I’m waiting for Sydney to explain to Ramit that Alex CAN’T let Nicole who works 11h days get a dog because dog ownership is the road to babies and if she caves on the dog she will have to let Nicole buy sperm instead of slowly running out her biological clock and then needing to punish her for being so irresponsible with time and money that now babies require fertility treatments. Which she also won’t allow. Becaaaause.
I’m too uncomfortable to sleep and am appreciating these recaps
I hope you can find a different outlet for your writing.