Covid-19 discussion

Cause it’s so safe here. :woman_facepalming:

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I think it has to do with a significant number of our employees living on the WI side of the river but the wording was kinda funny.

Kinda like banning Europe except for the UK

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:heart::heart::heart:

So glad to hear this!!

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So, I am having a dumb problem whereby I seem to not grasp I’m at risk. I know I’m immunosupressed but I don’t feel like I’m at risk.

Is there a good way to scare me into remembering I’m legit at risk and I shouldn’t just think “ohh the mall rink might be empty right now!” and go?

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Would it help to not try to think of it as a matter of your own risk and to instead think about the risk to those “other more high risk” people? I have an underlying condition that makes me more at high risk, though I don’t think it’s as bad as if I were immunosupressed or if my condition were not as well controlled, but I’m currently thinking less about the risk I pose to ME and more about the damage I can do just by being a vector even if I don’t get super sick.

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Yea, I’m just wondering if I am going to see those people? I’m probably the highest risk person I will come into contact with (I don’t make contact with any older relatives). But maybe need to go scare myself by reading epidemiology papers and reminding myself that I don’t look immunosuppressed but I am, so I can’t make assumptions about anyone else.

Also just read this article that might be relevant to other folks that are immunosuppressed. I don’t really have an active care team beyond every-6-weeks-blood-panels so no one is around to tell me things about my specific case:

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Can we scare you with “dude you’re gonna get SO MUCH MORE BEHIND on work if you get Covid-19”?

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As you said:

You don’t look immunosuppressed.

You are immunosuppressed.

If you are out and about, so are other immunosuppressed people who don’t look immunosuppressed.

I would literally bet money on that. And I don’t bet.

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wow it’s like you know me or something

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It doesn’t matter if you’re going to see them. If you haven’t read this article, it’s a good one. Basically we need everyone to reduce their exposure to the disease so that it stops circulating as fast. Because if you get it, even if you don’t get super sick, you could give it to someone else who doesn’t get sick at all and then gives it to their grandparent. We don’t know who is going to get super sick and need lots of medical care, we only know that if we don’t take big action to change our routines, more people will get very ill than we have the capacity to treat. So we all have to act as if we are likely to either transmit it or become incredibly ill to make it possible for our health care system to respond to everyone who actually does get incredibly ill, and we have to do it before we feel sick.

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Haha I know you would all remind me. Because my immunosuppressant reduces my symptoms to almost nonexistent, I forget I’m at real risk because I don’t feel or look sick anymore.

And also, being around young dumb people who think they are invincible rubs off no matter how much panic!policy!wonk twitter I read.

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I felt like a total panic monkey asking to work from home last week due to a well-controlled condition that I don’t think anything about when I’m not actively taking my controller medication. Then the next day my employer started super shutting things down for everyone. It’s crazy how fast it changes and here everyone is talking about how fast it went from, hmm…I wonder if I’m being paranoid to OH SHIT WE ALL NEED TO DO MORE FAST. But I think it’s really weird to think about taking those initial protective steps when we can’t see the issue.

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I think it didn’t feel like that much of a risk to me (although I knew it intellectually) until I read about lung scarring that could affect your ability to live a normal life. And that seems terrifying.

Don’t go because you might get lung scarring.

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I NEED THOSE LUNGS TO DO DOUBLE LUTZES!

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The last 24 hours have been crazy - I figured I was still going to London on vacation in April (still pretending this will happen) last night to deciding I don’t want to go to my Zumba class tonight because I have to be around sweaty people. We are lucky to work from home, and more people in our office are being encouraged to do so. Work office gatherings are being cancelled. I went to a large meeting yesterday and it was weird how my mind starts racing, questioning if that person’s handshake was ok or not? It is just surreal seeing everything change over night - is this the new normal? Am I prepared to just bunker down now and not go anywhere with people unless absolutely necessary? At least the cat has 3 months of food and litter so she is good.

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Yes. Yesterday I was confirming various event details, and in the past 16 hours, every event (5) I’m organizing or speaking at in the next two weeks has been cancelled.

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EXACTLY. And skipping out on a few months of skating so that you can skate for the next 10 years (I was going to say “rest of your life” and then thought maybe that was not realistic for fancy figure skating moves) is totally worth it!!

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I will agree with everyone who has said staying home isn’t about getting exposed, it’s about limiting the total number of potential vectors.

The more people stay home RIGHT NOW the faster we can get past the initial wave and get back to it. If we don’t we’ll see isolation recommendations drag out more and more and more.

So: skate now then no skate for six months, or no skate now and maybe back to skating by end of April.

Myself personally I’m pretty scared of exposure at this time of year. I am very unlikely to survive pneumonia of any variety. But I know what it physically feels like to not breathe, and that memory is a very strong deterrent :wink: If that weren’t so visceral, my patients are pretty damn motivating and I have no problem being inconvenienced for their theoretical safety. Fear is stronger 🤷

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You are amazing. Stay safe :heart:

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Things escalated quickly here. We have 5 confirmed cases in the state, including one (well, two, now) high profile cases (did I just out my location?), a lot of events cancelled since yesterday, the big theater and the opera cancelling performances, all county facilities closed as of tomorrow (including all the country libraries), the big St Patrick Day parade is postponed, all the colleges and universities moved to online classes. I saw some photos of WinCo being swamped, I am glad I did my final stock up on Tuesday because it was business as usual then!

My sister (in CT) says they have 2 confirmed cases in 2 adjacent towns to hers, and the school districts are closed. They are affluent towns, so those kids will be fine, but it doesn’t bode well for the less affluent areas. Her partner’s daughter is in college and got sent home because the colleges are all closed to in person classes.

I cancelled my father’s trip out to help me with the house/move. He is 71, and even though he doesn’t get that it is serious (he is as healthy as an ox) my mother is less healthy overall (including overweight, though none of the chronic conditions that are being commonly sighted as co-morbidity factors), and nearly all their friends are older and/or have more serious medical conditions (and often both - they live in a development that has a lot of retirees and a lot of them are older than my parents).

Oh - their cruise also got cancelled so they aren’t even out any money! From the cruise line at least, not sure about the flights. They weren’t going to go anyway because Italy, but at least they don’t have to feel regret about “losing” money.

The only things I’ll really need to restock in a few weeks are dairy products, and anything that I might have forgotten I need for the house reno. I just can’t wait on that. Otherwise I will likely just be here at home for the near term.

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