Does anyone have resources that are effective in changing minds I’m vaccine hesitate people who are on the fence and not fully anti-vax?
This is not someone I’m interacting with personally but is a friend of a friend who asked me for help.
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My workplace has introduced mandatory rapid covid screening before work each week for all non vaccinated employees as of Friday 10th September.
So if you have had the vaccine you get a temperature check and asked about being in contact with covid positive people and you are cleared. Non vaccinated do that and then have a nose swab and have to wait the 15-20min for the all clear .
My workplace hasn’t yet said if they are going to make covid vaccines mandatory for employees like some other companies in my industry have. So it will be interesting to see if that happens
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my work division (roughly 1600 people) was supposed to start with a few cross-functional teams piloting being in the office in Sept, then Oct, latest is ‘probably Nov’.
for one of the teams likely to be chosen they asked all the [myfunction] people if they’d be interested in being in the office. 3/22 said yes. So that’s how that is going.
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Are the vaccines more widely available yet for you guys over there? It would be a shame for people who want it but can’t get it yet to do all that! Good incentive if it’s just foot dragging like here in the US though.
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oh, my VP has been told he needs to start going in 1 day per month.
They are setting it up so that you can only walk the floor in one direction (it’s like a figure 8 with the piece in the center being the elevators and washrooms). Max four people in meeting rooms that used to hold 30. So I’m sure that will be fun.
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I asked my eye specialist if I should get a booster vaccine (I’m on immune suppressant medications) and she recommended getting it 6 months after my last shot. I also asked her about the flu shot and doing it separately and she said there may be additional immunity if you get them both on the same day, although there is more data needed!
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somehow I didn’t think it would happen. The backlash is gonna be Real.
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While I’m into this from a public health perspective, this shit is not gonna go over well with folks. Maybe he decided the antivaxxers were never gonna vote for him anyway so might as well? (In which case, abolish ICE)
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I think it was a moral imperative for him. Lives over politics. It’s been awhile since we’ve seen anything like that in this country.
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Who is paying for all these tests?
I’m tired of taxpayers being on the hook for regularly scheduled testing when someone could get a one-time vaccine. I’m also tired of pretending tests prevent covid from spreading. By the time someone gets a positive test they have already spread the virus. Especially when the tests seem to take half a week or more to get results in a lot of areas. This doesn’t help areas with low vaccination rates. Give paid time off to get the vaccine, but not to refuse it.
Also, the states are probably lining up to sue over this. I doubt it will stand. Despite “to promote the general welfare” they are going to say the constitution doesn’t say anything about vaccines, so ‘states rights’
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Putting the burden of paying for the tests on individuals won’t make them get vaccines, it will just mean people don’t get tested.
And I’m glad for this. It’s not going to be pretty. But a solid and strong stance on disease management of our years long global pandemic with an effective vaccine is a good thing.
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Putting the burden of paying for the tests on individuals won’t make them get vaccines, it will just mean people don’t get tested.
Then put the burden on the corporations who are allowing testing instead of vaccination.
This seems to incentivize not being vaccinated if you also get paid time off for it.
And by the time their test comes back positive, they can already spread it to the workplace. Testing makes sense when there is no vaccine, because you can’t do anything else; or along with vaccines; but it’s a sorry ass strategy that just panders to their ignorance.
If you have a VALID reason to not get vaccinated, sure, but most people DO NOT.
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I see this as a way to allow people privacy. People who have a reason don’t need to share it. Or prove it. This is a way to keep your job, be safer than nothing, and hopefully lots more people will get vaccines to protect that person too.
Yes there are ppl who will do testing instead of vaccines who don’t Need to. And yes it won’t be as effective. But i definitely see this is as a much more realistic vision. Because we’ve learned that the % of the pop who refuses vaccines aren’t going to have their minds changed. And this at least gets them regularly tested if they have a job in that category.
My 2 cents anyway.
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I’m a mean and spiteful person, but I’d be happy if they lost them. Here, these are the same people who took away unemployment protections just to ‘own the libs’. They actively screwed over other people, preventing them from getting aid that was issued to them. So either be vaccinated, have a valid medical reason, or don’t work for a company of more than 100 people.
It’s seems that the way Democrat politicians have to compromise is to continually give in. They get nothing in return.
Idk.
These are all people and I believe, wrong about this or not, that they deserve dignity and a living.
People have been mislead. And people are dying because of it. But the misleaders are the ones who have my ire, not the guy down the street who fell into the Facebook misinformation machine and probably is irrevocably radicalized.
That is a part of our population now, like it or not, and we have to work with it.
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Idk maybe I’m wrong about all this or will think different tomorrow. But so many people are already going to see this as government overreach that going further is not only bad politics, i don’t think it would Work. There’s that tipping point.
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I saw this on Twitter:
(Sarah Kliff covers healthcare policy for the NYTimes, so not some random person)
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I just think that they are going to be so mad about it either way, that you might as well go all the way.
And I really hope courts will uphold the requirement, because I have NO DOUBT, that at least 15 states have already drafted lawsuits waiting for Biden to even think about issuing an order.
@bucketsofrain that makes me slightly less annoyed. And also if the “must provide PTO” is for “those who contract covid” not just “to go get tested”. Our workplace has a pretty big issue with people coming in sick because our PTO policy sucks. And 85% of people here don’t work in masks; though HR claims most people are vaccinated, they’ve never asked me for a card, so I have no idea how they know that.
I think insurance companies are getting annoyed at paying for all these tests. The vaccines are a hell of a lot cheaper for them too. All these unvaccinated people will be in for a shock when they find out care isn’t covered the same anymore either. Getting covid is hella expensive.
And I need to go get another swab shoved up my nose because I’m coughing again. (And yes, I’m vaccinated. I just get every single cold that comes near me.)