Covid-19 discussion

Isn’t it too soon for any “long term” data on vaccinated breakthrough cases? I think that’s going to be a big unknown for a while yet.

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Yeah, she’s in daycare a couple days a week around my vaccinated parents who work with the general public in an antivax hotspot so this is not especially risky. I just go back and forth between thinking it’s relatively low risk, and wanting to eliminate all additional risk to balance out daycare…

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I’m very much with you on this. On the one hand I think “Since everything feels out of control, I’ll control what I can” and go lower risk. But then I remember that this is a marathon and not a sprint, so adding some risk to get quality of life seems more reasonable … then five minutes later I’m reconsidering again.

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I think I just broke out in hives looking at this. NOT getting on public transport this weekend for any reason!

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I know someone who got her first vaccine on Christmas Eve, so there are people who have been vaccinated for seven months, plus the people who participated in the trials. I think there were people with long covid symptoms within the first seven months of the beginning of the pandemic, so I think it’s long enough to have at least some information.

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I finally did a google search of my own question:

Here’s some competing views. The first is a study in Israel, where vaccines were rolled out quickly and had a lot of participation. They are seeing some long haul cases, about 20%. Most people int he study had the alpha variant.
The second points out there may be a lot of undiagnosed Covid cases in vaccinated people, so people may be experiencing symptoms but not connecting them to Covid.
Finally, a more US-based article which anecdotally reports some healthcare professionals report they are not seeing many long haul covid cases among vaccinated people.

So there appears to be a lower risk of long haul covid in breakthrough cases at least for the alpha variant.

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Man, am I sick. Worse/longer than second shot. Aches, fever, exhaustion, nausea. Armpit on the vaccine side so swollen I can’t fully raise or lower my arm. I’m at 50 hours out, and it’s better, but still fever and swollen (presumably?) lymph glands.

For science: first shots this spring were Pfizer, this time Moderna.

Edit: forgot weird muscle rictus thing. Happily only lasted about 24 hours.

Edit again: Husband had some fever the day after shot but has been fine today- as in building greenhouse in the heat fine.

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I hope you feel better soon! Thank you for reporting on how this is going for you. I am sincerely concerned that people will forgo getting the boosters when available because they don’t want to go through the side effects again, and I’m cringing (though not surprised) hearing that you are having a worse time of it than with your previous vaccines. People who disclosed to me that they had covid before vaccines were available to them and later were vaccinated all told me they had a more miserable experience with the vaccines than they did with covid. These were all people with symptomatic covid though not severe enough to be hospitalized. I’m not too optimistic we will see the same numbers getting revaccinated as we saw with the initial vaccines because of the fear of side effects.

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I know this is likely, but I don’t really understand it. I expected this, and I’d do it again tomorrow if I needed to. It’s a couple days of annoyance and discomfort in my own home lying around with library books and no guilt. That’s nothing compared to dying alone years early.

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I totally agree.

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Your local epidemiologist posted this yesterday as a resource for those advocating for their kids. Thought it might be useful to folks here.

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Work is requiring weekly testing if you’re not vaccinated, and requiring proof of vaccination, not just “honor system”.

Thank you Joe Biden!

*we’re not federal employees but adjacent, and this policy clearly was adopted from what was announced last week.

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This makes me feel a lot better about the Delta variant, if vaccinated!

https://inguyun.medium.com/the-provincetown-outbreak-is-actually-good-news-if-you-are-vaccinated-93a1edd763b6

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My coworker is supposed to be going to Florida this Wednesday for a week long bachelorette party. Her parents (my bosses) are asking her to do a little more research tonight before making a final decision. She is vaccinated, but still…

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My BF went to TX to visit a friend and they are both going clubbing together. They are vaccinated but man omg yikes.

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What on earth does a week long bachelorette party mean?
Are they renting a beach house and just hanging by the pool/on the beach all day with contactless delivery of food? If so, go for it. If not, maybe don’t come down.

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Nope. Staying in a hotel. And certainly lots of partying with like 10 women going. Her parents really don’t want her to go, but she’s in charge of herself so we will see what she decides.

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Eek.

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Brings me back to this time last year, when I thought my little sister still wanted to proceed with a 16 person bachelorette (only a long weekend, in an airbnb, thank goodness). It’s happening this October instead…for now. Ugh.

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Coworker is not going to the bachelorette party in Florida. :+1: All of the other women still are though. One of them said “well I was just in Miami and only 2 of us got covid, it’s no big deal.” The bride is unvaxxed and works with elderly people so will certainly have to be quarantined when she comes back and is fine with that. Ugh people.

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