Covid-19 discussion

Keep in mind the locations serve different populations :slight_smile: my location is more mainstream.

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This piano playing event is on June 10th and itā€™s a potluck. That they had planned over a month ago. Iā€™m not comfortable with that even if everyone is vaccinated. Maybe Iā€™ll ask if the food part will be outside? I could wear an N95 for the piano part, or I could just not go.

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Why is the potluck part a particular concern? Havenā€™t we determined fomite transfer is overwhelmingly (>99.9%) not happening?

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Hanging out with a bunch of strangers indoors unmasked is just not comfortable for me yet.

Iā€™m not concerned about getting infected through food.

Oh so you meant food versus no food, not restaurant food versus potluck food. Gotcha.

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The food part is relevant because it means everyone will be unmasked.

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Iā€™m also quite baffled at peopleā€™s comfort eating together.

I know so many people who seem super cautious, like even masks at playgrounds (most people stopped outdoor masks ages ago). But then go to restaurants in groups.

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Thatā€™s how my oldest brother is. Heā€™s still shitty about my brother who works with the public a lot and his wife who is in medicine, but then he goes out to restaurants, and to restaurants with friends? Itā€™s very weird to me. He wears masks on hikes even. Theyā€™re all fully vaccinated mind you. I think those are the times that baffle me- uneven application of risk assessment.

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Theyā€™re requiring that everyone be fully vaccinated but theyā€™re doing indoor food and optional masks. The hosts already said they wonā€™t be masked. Aside from my qualms, how do I politely say that I donā€™t trust people?? :joy: Itā€™s on the honor system.

Iā€™m just not going to go, there will be plenty of other opportunities!

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Our parents have all had their first shot of AZ! Iā€™m so relieved.

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I would just say ā€œThank you so much for the invite. Iā€™m not comfortable with indoor dining yet. I hope yā€™all have a great time. Letā€™s get together later this summer.ā€

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Yeah I bowed out and wrote a personal note to the only person I know (the woman who invited me to the group and who is the host this time). Maybe this fall!

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We are driving on I80 thru Indiana and I just got an Emergency Alert that we could get off at the next exit and get a Free Covid 19 Vaccination, no appointment or proof of residency required!

I am charmed, which is not how I usually feel about Indiana.

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Thatā€™s so cool.

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My ex still wants to take the children to Italy. Itā€™s still at Level 4. He has a business that requires his presence in Italy in July. I asked him to convince me itā€™s safe; I got back one of those NYT articles about how low the risk to kids isā€“but weā€™re not discussing whether they need to mask on the playground, weā€™re talking about a long-haul flight to a hotspot! He says ā€œIā€™m asking you to use reason/logic/evidence instead of fearā€ but isnā€™t sending me any information about Italy itself.

I already told him the kids could go if it was Level 3 (essential travel only) because this travel is work-related, which I thought was generous. Please note that I am not asking for legal adviceā€“I am already working with a lawyer and if this went to court, I might lose anyway as he has a right to make decisions for his parenting time, and our coparenting relationship has always been generally very good. Anyway, any perspectives on how to approach this problem from a scientific/public health perspective would be welcome.

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Sounds like heā€™s the one not using reason/logic/evidence when the CDC is literally saying to avoid all travel of any kind to Italy??? How frustrating that heā€™s flipping the burden of proof on you when heā€™s the one flouting the scientific recommendation. I donā€™t even know what else you could send to convince him. Sounds like heā€™s determined to go no matter what.

I guess if heā€™s going to take them anyway, I really hope that the cases come down by July. So sorry youā€™re in this position.

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My workplace decided to enter everyone who has been fully vaccinated (and filled out their tracker) in a drawing for $1500, with multiple winners, to be held at the end of June :slight_smile:

I appreciate that itā€™s not ā€œcome get vaccinated at our clinic and be enteredā€ and that all of us are eligible to win.

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Is he pro vax? If the kids arenā€™t vaccinated can you discuss waiting until they are vaccinated? Is there a quarantine on their return?

Itā€™s all a sad mess. Iā€™m sorry that your parenting arrangement has turned out like this

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A coworker is arranging a group lunch (that heā€™s paying for) to celebrate completing the first part of a test campaign that Iā€™m supporting. He made indoor reservations at a local restaurant though.

Iā€™m leaning toward not going. From a purely rational standpoint, my risk is low. Iā€™m fully vaccinated, and everybody in my family except my toddler is fully vaccinated. Nobody in my family is high risk. But - I donā€™t know if other people at this lunch are also fully vaccinated, and while breakthrough cases are rare, theyā€™re not nonexistent, and Iā€™m concerned about giving it to my toddler.

Iā€™m taking other, higher risks - weā€™re sending our toddler to daycare soon, though all the daycare adults are still masked. This lunch would be good for my career maybe (networking), but itā€™s not like these folks are friends. Am I being overly paranoid?

I would definitely go if this lunch was outside. Iā€™m not senior enough to raise that suggestion ā€” it would require somebody to call around to local places to find an outdoor venue big enough to seat that many people, and thereā€™s not very many venues like that. Iā€™m also not the one paying so thereā€™s thatā€¦

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Do you have enough of a feel for if there will be future events like this?

I started at a new company at the beginning of the year and a while ago there was an outdoor meet up/lunch thing that was voluntary but I had juuuust gotten my second shot so I wasnā€™t comfortable going yet even though it was outdoors. Like, my gut feel would have had me feeling low-key anxious the entire time and it being the first time I wouldā€™ve met a bunch of people face to face instead of by screen didnā€™t help. I guess Iā€™m saying I partly didnā€™t go because I knew I wouldnā€™t be able to act naturally.