I remain surprised that it talks about opening schools in terms of the dangers to children. If teachers and staff were able to get vaccinated, then it might be safe to reopen schools. Of course, it would be helpful if the schools would require masks, but that’s not likely to happen around here. Hasn’t all year…
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I think it’s an oversight not to talk about the risk to teachers, but that also seems to be really low. Denver’s case load and rate of positivity is much lower in the schools than in the population at large, if I understand correctly. Elementary schools have been fully open for 2 months with precautions and without major outbreaks.
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Yea, we seem to have the data that schools being open is not responsible for the massive outbreaks we originally thought it would be. There’s enough control groups globally that we’ve really been able to see that.
ETA: I did see you said with no masks, that seems to be worse. Like raises chances in parents and teachers of contracting covid by ~20%
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Love this for us:
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And I was told yet again today that “the entire thing is a farce and no worse than the flu.” Also “wearing masks didn’t make any difference vs not wearing them, the virus behaved exactly the same way it would have without rules/closures.” This person DOES wear masks at least, just bitches about it.
Ugh
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Well, a woman in my area lost both her hands and legs after having flu last year, so it can happen. People don’t take flu as seriously as they should.
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It does seem that universities are responsible for big outbreaks, though.
I think we have more of an idea of how often that happens though. Or at least, the medical community does. The average person under estimates the flu. But things like that are pretty rare. Long covid seems to be not rare.
Universities and K-12 are very different.
Most K-12 isn’t having huge gatherings at bars.
Contact tracing at our local university has shown no spread due to lecture halls, but quite a bit due to parties. Our biggest outbreak was tied to move in.
Our K-12 schools have been pretty safe, with only isolated cases. They have been open since the fall with some districts also offering remote or hybrid. Many students had a totally normal, even with clubs and sports, but masked, year.
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Oh, I agree, but it’s still worth noting that older teens spread Covid very efficiently.
There seems to have been quite a few clusters in my area from high school sports, which were unmasked and which seemed to me to be the main thing that many families wanted to happen.
I’ve been so encouraged by how Denver is handling re-opening! We just moved here (well, to Englewood) and it seems like they’re working hard to do right by kids and families. We moved from the Bay Area and I’ve tried to cut myself off following Bay Area school reopening news, particularly San Francisco, where it’s been such a mess from a good governance perspective and communications perspective.
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I actually think that a lot of people have post viral syndromes that aren’t identified or taken seriously. ME seems to have differing rates of Dx and tracing depending on region, and a lot of my patients can trace debilitating life long pain, fatigue and weakness to a cold or flu, even a relatively minor one. Long covid is affecting many people, but could draw research to help a lot of chronically I’ll people
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1000% agree
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Very late to the party on this! I read recently that the current thinking is that the transmission is much more likely to be via suspended aerosol particles than fomite. Ditto for the ‘lift button’ case.
If anyone is interested this screen shot is from a journal article (early release) about this - it’s on on the CDC website.
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Marcela reaction - shrieks of joy
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It was especially good timing to get it, because at work the day before I handled a 1:4 ratio of enthusiastic vaxxers:hesitant or anti
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I am going tomorrow at 9 and there are enough spots for everyone at my workplace who wanted one. I am hearing a lot of enthusiasm for it, so while I can’t, like, poll people, I am optimistic that it’s a big chunk of us at least.
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