Covid-19 discussion

yes, I thought it was ridiculous that they weren’t higher up on the list. Good point about restaurant workers too! I think they will be eligible next week as well.

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Hmph. Overweight doesn’t count as preexisting condition. Only obese. Boyfriend’s BMI is not high enough since he lost weight last year. Oh well.

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Lie? If they check, he’s all surprised he lost weight.

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We’re supposed to wait our turn though, they keep saying that and talking about how immoral it is to jump the line.

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Walgreens asks for your birthdate along with your insurance card, but nothing else, at least where I went. But I know several Not Old people who have gone through the drugstores and didn’t need to show anything in Ohio.

Friends here who have gotten vaccines because they’re educators have sometimes had to bring proof of employment as an educator, sometimes not. It really depends.

Yeah, it seems like most places are using the “increase risk” list from CDC, and overweight is on the “may increase risk” list.

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Walgreens here is turning people away for what seems like fairly arbitrary reasons. In the city, anyway. He may be better off renting a car and going to the suburbs where it seems much easier and less proof is requested.

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Yeah. I know they have to draw the line somewhere… but if he’s 5-10 lbs short of being technically obese does that make risk magically go away? I honestly don’t know the answer to this.

My next door neighbor’s father had a kidney transplant- which I know because she donated the kidney - and they Don’t Believe In Masks.

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Well statistics don’t matter to the individual… But, the data has shown that obese people are at higher risk than overweight people so in that respect the risk has magically gone away, since he’s not in that group. That’s why the CDC categorizes overweight as “might increase risk”, the data isn’t strong.

Being 10 pounds below obese probably doesn’t make a huge difference to the line of obese, but I’d bet it’s a lower risk than being way over the line. And like you said, the line has to be somewhere.

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Y’all… if you want a complete brain-trip, read the first like ~100 posts of this thread from the top. It is interesting and kinda weird to see what we thought 1 year ago.

@AllHat and @katscratch pretty much had it all right all the time.

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Wiping down groceries: New Zealand’s contact tracing team found cases believed to have been transmitted via an elevator button and a rubbish bin lid.

Even if something’s 1 in a million, that’s 330 cases for the ~330 million people in the US, for example. As a public health recommendation it’s not a priority, given the much more prevalent airborne spread.

But as an individual I could see the benefit if you really, really, really don’t want to be that outlier and you have the mental bandwidth for excessive risk mitigation. (I got covid via one of these “statistically impossible” scenarios so maybe that’s why I entertain this at all.)

ETA: Don’t read the article if you don’t need an internet rathole! :heart:

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Well that sucks.
I was really enjoying the “it’s air borne and I don’t need to worry about surfaces”.

Boo.

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I say this lovingly, but I’m going to pretend not to have read that.

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Yuck. Not at you, at surface transmission.

We haven’t been disinfecting groceries, but have been showering everytime we come home from the store/work/appointment, etc. I was actually thinking about if we could be less strict about that, but guess not.

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I wonder if showering is necessary, or if just washing your hands is enough?

Of course, I still have a 2 year old who licks the doors every time he goes into daycare, and if we try to stop him, he tends to lick the floor. So our exposure to things…well, it’s tough to control.

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OK, but how much effort are you putting into mitigating THAT risk, which could go into other more likely risks or into just, you know, resting or having fun?

I don’t wipe my groceries or packages. I do wipe shared keyboards with a lot more vigor than I used to (which was never). I remember when covid first hit I went to wipe down the reference desk and the wipes came away all brown and gross–not anymore!

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I did just go back and read a few posts.

Back in Jan 2020, my mom (who is normally a worrier) was avoiding Chinese supermarkets and other gatherings due to news trickling out of Wuhan. My sister and I were cavalierly telling her, “don’t worry mom, the CDC says we’re more at risk of the flu, and we don’t need to wear masks”. Joke’s on us.

Also, I was secretly thinking “yeah, but the issues in Wuhan are due to China’s poor medical facilities, we don’t have those problems here.” Now, my experience with medical care in China isn’t completely unfounded because I did visit my grandmother multiple times and the place where she was at was terribly overcrowded. But now I’m a little ashamed at my ignorance and “American” sense of superiority (even though I’m a first gen immigrant).

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My one-year old likes to slobber all over me. But I do think we’ll change our risk posture once my parents are no longer living with me and my child is in daycare, and accept the higher risks that those choices come with. We decided that once my child is in daycare, the grandparents will not visit until they are fully vaccinated.

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