Covid-19 discussion

Local headlines for today:

Illinois is starting 1C vaccinations (for preexisting conditions) Feb. 25!

Except if you live in Chicago because we have a separate pool of vaccines available to us. We’re supposed to start 1C March 29 but the mayor and head of the health department says that will need to be pushed back because the feds aren’t sending us enough!

Yet, schools are reopening in-person tomorrow and the mayor’s increasing indoor dining capacity!

Wheeeeee cognitive dissonance!

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Saw this and thought of you. (And no, apparently locations do not correlate well to medical front line worker lodgings).

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Yes, that seems about right. The higher death areas correlate to the poorer, less white parts of the city.
I’m in one of the dark pink wards at top right, second from the top (right under the light pink one).
Apparently people who neither live nor work in the city are also coming here for their vaccines.

Here is some good news from my company: “offices will not officially re-open until vaccines are available to the general population and supply is adequate to meet demand. We expect that to look different from location to location, and therefore our office re-opening timelines will likely also vary.”
This seems… very sane? I am pleasantly surprised. (Though I have permission to stay remote so this doesn’t actually affect me.)

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Ugh. I’m sorry, Meowkins, I hope they do alright.

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Yay! Several family members are now scheduled to get their vaccines!

Boo! MiL is now bombarding us with how she won’t need to quarantine/social distance once she is vaccinated.

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Ok that raises a question

Aren’t vaccinated people safe to be around after 2 vaccines and safer than no vaccinated after 1 vaccine?

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Everything I’ve seen and the stuff from my doctor was that we still need to mask and social distance even after vaccination.
My feelings on this are also coloured by the way my MiL has taken no precautions basically all year so it’s not like I trust her very much to begin with.

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The answer is we’re not sure. Safer, probably. But at this point we funny know enough to say that a vaccinated person couldn’t be a carrier without being sick

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Yeah, official guidance is basically not to change your behavior. At a minimum they need to wait some weeks after the second dose.

But even then, with 90% efficacy (and who knows what the real efficacy will be with the current variants), once you get more than a few households together chances of someone getting sick are still kinda high.

Practically speaking I bet everyone is going to make their own random choices. :dizzy_face:

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Well we have a household of 17 with a larger extended pod so that’s not so comforting LOL

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I think, generally, it is safe for the vaccinated person to be around an unvaccinated person, 2 weeks after their vaccine, as the vaccines are effective against severe illness. So they won’t get severely ill. That’s the point of the vaccine.

However, since there is no data on their effectiveness against minor or asymptomatic illness, it is not known to be safer for an unvaccinated person to be around a vaccinated person. Because the vaccinated person could be ill, and even if they had minor illness doesn’t mean the person who they transmit it to would also have a minor illness.

So until a critical mass of people have this vaccine, we have to act like people don’t.

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I have never been so happy in my entire life to get a vaccine. I get the second dose on 3/3.

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Just got my second shot. Let’s see how this goes for me :crossed_fingers::crossed_fingers::crossed_fingers:

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YAY!!! I hope it goes smoothly and with only minor aches.

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A thing that may be a thing to worry about. I'm kind of worried.

So, the CDC says people who are fully vaccinated (both shots, at least two weeks past the second shot) do not need to quarantine if they’re exposed. But only up until three months after their second shot. Pass that, they need to quarantine again. What do they know about the three month mark that we don’t?

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I’m very much hoping that it’s as simple as “we only have 3 months of data currently.”

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It’s merely the data we have because of the length of phase 3, apparently. :slight_smile: so they can only say, with confidence, it’s okay up to that point. My brother had the same Q so I dug into it yesterday, one of the medical school releases was talking about it.

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Okay, thanks. That helps a lot.

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