OH SURE clearly that is how it works. Now where is that bottle of booze…
I mean… the thing is, she’s not totally wrong. Since bars and restaurants are closed, people are gathering in large groups in homes or non-restaurant, non-bar spaces. (think raves in warehouses… ) And cases have not gone down very much since they closed indoor dining and bars. The problem isn’t restaurants or bars, though having them open certainly doesn’t help. The problem is people won’t stop getting together in crowds indoors without masks. Short of sealing everyone into their homes, how do we stop that? We can’t.
That’s what gets me about when people complain about how the government overstepped their bounds with the “lockdown”.
But almost nowhere in the country was actually locked down. You could leave your house whenever you wanted. You could go for a walk. You could choose when to go get groceries. You could get takeout food.
They could have also TRULY locked us down, had police patrols, delivered government food to our doors, or had ration coupons that could only be spent at grocery stores on assigned days. I don’t want that. But THAT is a lockdown.
In other countries the option to just go for a walk wasn’t there. That’s why we got stories of people running marathons on their balconies. I watch an outdoors channel that did a series on training for mountain climbing in your living room. he was imploring Americans to not actually go do this on mountains, because even though we COULD it puts a strain on emergency services if someone gets in trouble. Very few “freedoms” have been taken away at all. We’ve had a lot taken away from us, but it hasn’t been “freedom”.
I think we’re in the normal pool since no other medical issues. I saw my eye specialist yesterday and she said there’s not enough info yet but they’re trying to put together recommendations for when to get the vaccine relative to your medications. Currently they’re saying no methotrexate for 2 weeks after the vaccine, and no Humira for some time period before the vaccine (she said this info is not public so we won’t find info by Googling, but they plan to publish guidelines soon). So when I become eligible, I’ll call her and we’ll make a plan based on the timing of my medications and the latest recommendations. You should definitely talk to your rheumatologist, too!
It’s not the actual poking that requires extra training, it’s the responding to vasovagal responses, allergic responses, making sure the doses are planned for and used up within the right timeframe while also having enough time to adequately monitor patients and respond to any immediate side effects or reactions.
It’s been a lot more intense than flu clinics, at least here in my workplace where it’s taking place in my hallway and rooms I walk past 460 times a day, with more adverse responses requiring direct observation (mild but still have to be monitored longer than 15 minutes, most are things we see with any vaccine but we’re obviously taking more precautions with this).
Our staffing is completely wack right now with the combination of people still going through exposure quarantines and illness quarantines, and now people also being out for vaccine related reasons. Covid units are not in a good way in a lot of areas. Burnout for us has only been the last month or two, not ten.
My state seems to be rolling out our doses pretty methodically but we’re still in phase 1A. We did get a notice in my workplace that the state dept of health is moving to phase 1B so if people in 1A postpone they might not get a dose until general public spots are open, depending on how many extra doses are available each day.
Interesting! How do you feel about that rule?
Here, it’s being said that if 1A people postpone, they can still get one at any time whenever they decide it’s the right thing to do.
It’s not a rule, just a caution that appointment spots will fill up fast. They are still eligible at any time but may not be able to schedule an appointment within our workplace system until later in the year.
I’m starting to grasp how/why the vaccination program is going slowly here - they were initially trying to “restrict” to health care workers in skilled nursing facilities/senior centers and ICU nurses. Sounds reasonable, eh?
Well, my friend who works front desk at an independent living senior residence, that is part of the same building as a skilled nursing facility was like 20 feet away from all the vaccinations going out to the workers and skilled nursing residents 2 weeks ago. But she didn’t get it, nor did any of the workers or residents on her side even though the vaccination people were on site - because she was 1b not 1a.
They relaxed those guidelines and she got her first dose today. I’m breathing a little easier for her.
I now have 8 IRL friends that have gotten the vaccine. Which feels… like…far too little but exciting.
We agreed around Thanksgiving that we would stop going into buildings for any reason, fearing the holiday surge, since we’re privileged to be able to do so. I thought I was being paranoid. Maybe not.
And yet the mayor is trying to open bars and restaurants… though, she can’t override the governor and he says our cases are too high in the city still.
Really crossing my fingers on no reaction for me today. Husband has lots of work to get done, our house is still being worked on, and please please let me not feel like shit lol.
@anomalily here in a few hours it’ll be 9 IRL friends!
Meanwhile in NY, the jump from 1a to 1b has led to 7 million people becoming eligible basically overnight. And it has been a clusterf***. Each site has a different sign up interface, you have to click through each day of each site, nothing’s available, the websites crash, etc. Phone lines are so overwhelmed no one answers. Many of the elderly who are now eligible can’t navigate the sites so they are SOL.
My job is kind of weird - I might be eligible? I work at a higher ed institute but in a lab, not a classroom. Still interact with students, though. Our union is trying to get clarification for people like me on the edges of the definitions. Definitely don’t want to take a spot if it’s not meant for me, but I do want to get it as soon as it’s my turn.
Ugh yeah… we’re still grocery shopping in person but trying to avoid peak times, and reducing number of trips. I did order 20 KN masks for use grocery shopping so I feel a little better.
Yeah, I don’t really know what todo with this information. I am not convinced that the grocery stores have the staffing capacity to deliver everyone’s groceries. We require 2 shopping trips per week (more food than my husband can carry out of the store in one trip, so then it seems like I might as well make a mid-week trip instead of him going back in… I go to the store with the better produce and reusable milk cartons).
KN95 masks are too big for my face. I have some, but I am not sure they work all that much better than cloth because they don’t form a tight seal.
Yea same. I’m like… we live 1 block from the grocery store - 3 different grocery stores, actually. 2/3 grocery stores do not offer curbside service. We do not drive. We live in this neighborhood so we can walk to the store.
I’m not going to pay someone to get exposed to deliver from 1 block from our house, nearly doubling the cost of a week’s worth of groceries. I’m just…not.
So… continue to try not to shop often, only send SSO who is less prone to infections than me (because I am immunosuppressed) and then… cross my fingers.
Don’t you guys have a vehicle? You might consider curbside as an alternative.
ETA Also the respirators that husband and I are using, while not cheap, do seem to be available for purchase. If anybody wants, I can provide some info.
We’ll think about it. I’m still concerned about the staffing for it and I think it would be hard on my husband to give up the only thing he does outside of the house. I should talk to him about it. If he still wants to go, those KN95s I have would probably fit HIM just fine, especially when he has shaved his beard.
From what I can tell, our grocery stores have moved people from registers to curbside.
The few times I’ve gone inside like 3 of 30 have been open. But when I drive up, they have groceries in my car easily. I can almost always get a spot within 2 days of placing the order. I even managed a day before thanksgiving spot with 2 days notice.
) And cases have not gone down very much since they closed indoor dining and bars. The problem isn’t restaurants or bars, though having them open certainly doesn’t help. The problem is people won’t stop getting together in crowds indoors without masks. Short of sealing everyone into their homes, how do we stop that? We can’t.