Wow I teared up watching Mariah’s performance…she is so…fluid? Is that the right word? I don’t know but it was just gorgeous, she’s definitely talented and the choreography went with the music perfectly. Also I loved her costume, so simple and elegant
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Sammmme.
Gracie Gold coming back in the short, after everything she’s been through <3 <3
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When Tara Lipinski called Mariah Bell a carebear 
. The American announcers are so extra; I love them.
Hey, the US mens’ short is on right now.
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Hey look here is footage of me at Junior nationals in the year 2000 filmed on a potato. This is prior to me shaving my head and my pairs partner growing like 18 inches
no i will not be sharing the unlisted video. And you won’t find it by searching because I changed my name since then
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OMG, the US men are sooo good! Question: how is a skater like Jason Brown competitive without a quad, when the other top US men have TWO quads in their short programs, and several others are also delivering great quads & overall programs? Is Jason Brown just changing direction very fast to rack up the points? I’m sort of a casual skating fan & can’t actually tell the difference between, say, a Salchow and a loop. I mean, I can look up the differences in edge jumps etc, but without any experience in the sport myself, I feel like I’m never really going to “get it.” I do like his Nina Simone routine much better than Riverdance.
Tara Lipinski called Ilia Malinin Robin to Nathan Chen’s Batman
You both look so cute @anomalily !
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I’ll have to look up his IJS scores, but generally Jason is extremely athletic, has fantastic presentation scores and has great technical skills. His form for his jumps is better than Nathan’s, or Vincent’s. So - you do a fantastic quad but get a low Grade of Execution because it’s underrotated or poor form (essentially how well you DO the jump) vs Jason doing a triple axel-triple loop (the highest base value of the triple triples) with a higher GOE, one outscores the other.
Also… it’s a judged sport and Jason has been put in SO MANY promotional videos. But I think there’s a possibility they send a bunch of the quad boys to Beijing.
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OMG this is the thread I didn’t know I needed!
If anybody wants to go retro and watch the Tonya Harding movie together on line, I’m in (though I do not have the tech skills to set it up). I really wanted to chat about that after I saw it in the theater…
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And the spins! He is the king of spins. That shot from above was so cool…
Thank you for posting the no commentary version. I’m glad that was the way I first saw this. [runs off to Youtube to find all the other no commentary skating videos…]
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I couldn’t stand Zagitova – felt to me like she was just flailing around for the first minute. She doesn’t hold her arms or legs in any position for more than a second. Felt sloppy to me.
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Oh, for anyone wanting to know, the “hardness” order of the jumps in figure skating, I put it below - in order from least hard to most hard.! Parentheses is the base point value for each level of rotation.
| Single | Double | Triple | Quadruple | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Toe Loop | 0.4 | 1.3 | 4.3 | 10.3 |
| Salchow | 0.4 | 1.3 | 4.4 | 10.5 |
| Loop | 0.5 | 1.8 | 5.1 | 12.0 |
| Flip | 0.5 | 1.9 | 5.3 | 12.3 |
| Lutz | 0.6 | 2.1 | 6.0 | 13.6 |
| Axel | 1.1 | 3.3 | 8.5 | 15.0 |
You get more points for attempting a Quadruple Lutz that then is “downgraded” because of under-rotation or two-footing, etc than you would for a perfectly executed triple lutz with a higher Grade of Execution.
A common problem on the Lutz is a “Flutz” where you enter the jump from the wrong edge, but it’s really hard for an untrained eye to tell the difference.
This is a silly video on telling the jumps apart:
USUALLY in combination jumps, Toe Loops or Loops are the final jump in the combo. Loop combos are harder than toe loop combos. The first jump of a combo is usually the HARDEST jump in the combo with the best scoring. A Quad Lutz - Triple Toe Loop is still harder than a Quad Salchow- Triple Loop.
A Triple Lutz - Triple Toe would score lower than a Triple Lutz - Triple Loop.
There’s a weird jump called a euler that’s usually only used in a 3-jump combo that’s just a loop but landed on the other foot. It’s a loop for all reasonable purposes. We used to call it a half-loop but changed the name because you can do a double or triple Euler and therefore “half” was confusing.
Axel is the easiest to tell because it is the only jump entered forward. It’s technically 1/2 rotation more (so a triple axel is 3.5 revolutions)
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Wow – yes, agree.
Whoever thought of those red gloves deserves a medal, too. They really accentuate her ability to hold a long, straight line, especially in those jumps where she puts her arms straight up. I wish she could have red boots on the other end, too.
She reminds me of Katerina Witt.
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I was in the arena for that! I went up to spokane to support some friends for men’s nationals (and take over the only gay bar in spokane on a tuesday night)
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Jason Brown also picks up points on all the pieces outside of the jumps (spins, footwork, general line), and the jumps he does tend to be very high quality. This strategy is helped when the quad guys are doing high risk pieces and so if they fall once and he doesn’t…
at the extreme other end of things in the Men’s competition today, Artur Dmitriev (Jr)'s shoulders/neck placement is just so distracting.
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Why is it silly? I found it very informative.
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Definitely Informative! I think maybe it’s the tow pick jokes/illustrations I find a lil silly but in a good way
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That video was great! I’ve been watching figure skating since I was 5 and never knew all of that information. Also the take off for the Lutz looks SO uncomfortable…not that the other jumps look remotely comfortable, but my ankles hurt just watching it!
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Eh, it’s not really that hard on your ankle, the actual angle isn’t caused by your ankle but the blade - remember how much ankle support we have in the boots- they’re like solid masses. Things like sitspins and landing jumps are much harder on your ankles!
(ETA I have never in my life done a quad lutz, but I’ve done a lot of double lutzes and a fair amount of very bad throw triple lutzes)
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Nathan chen’s INCREDIBLE short program is online
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I missed that Evgenia retired!! I was rooting so hard for her after reading about her move to Canada and coaching change, and it seemed like just a better environment for her to be skating with other 20 something year olds and not fellow countrywomen….
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Orser seems an overall better coach for mental health. She would’ve stayed in CAnada if it weren’t for Covid 
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