Garden Chat

Just stick the top broken-off part in soil and water well. It will grow new roots.

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Beans to the moon.

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Still not sure if my grocery store Crowder peas are going to be bush or vine type.

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I was perplexed that my water bill hadnā€™t gone up, since Iā€™ve been watering the garden at least every other day.

Then I realized that Greyman and I each shower about half what I used to since we donā€™t have to be around people and donā€™t exercise. So we just traded self-watering for plant-watering.

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What would you all do to protect your tomato plants if youā€™d just discovered that your building is getting a new roof soon, and your raised bed is directly in the line of fire of where theyā€™ll be tossing the old shingles that theyā€™re ripping off? My landlord just casually mentioned ā€œoh yeah, thereā€™ll be some damage to the backyard for sure.ā€ Uhā€¦??

If itā€™s not too hot and it happens soon enough that the plants are still small (which seems likely), I have plenty of rubbermaid bins and such that are tall enough to cover them without squishing them. Though Iā€™d have to pull the cages. But, that would cook them, I assume. Iā€™m not sure I have enough large cardboard boxes that are also tall enough, I assume that would at least breathe a little better though would not let in light. Maybe I could punch holes in them for at least a little light?

Anyone had to deal with this before?

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How close are the beds to the building? Could you build like a little lean-to over them if theyā€™re close ā€“ some sort of wood/plywood leaning against the building that would shade the plants but be sturdy and let roofing slide off it?

Not close at all, and there are tall raspberry bushes in between the building and the raised bed.

Shingles? If they throw shingles down there, neither Rubbermaid bins nor boxes will make any difference at all. Shingles are extremely heavy.

Your best bet might be to make it look as fancy as you can manage in the hopes that the workers avoid that spot.

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Well, shit.

I am not a homeowner and have never had a roof replaced at anywhere Iā€™ve rented, and I guess it never occurred to me that they would just be tossing the old shingles willy nilly into someoneā€™s yard and letting them crash onto whatever. Not that Iā€™d really given it much thought before, I admit. I guess there is no other choice, unless thereā€™s a way to throw them into some sort of receptacle or dumpster or whatever. Do most homeowners just jaccept garden damage when a roof repair is needed?

Thereā€™s a space behind the raised bed that has nothing, itā€™s just vacant dirt, but I dunno how well roofers can aim from 2 stories up?

Now I have an image of people yelling ā€œgardylooā€ before tossing the contents of their chamber pots out the window during the Middle Ages and itā€™s making me snicker.

Maybe if I asked nicely my landlord would replace whatever gets destroyed, assuming that they do throw things right onto my raised bed and take out all of my tomatoes.

At least some are in garden bags or big containers. If I asked really nicely, my next door neighbors might let me haul those into their yard (there is no fence between our yards, just a sidewalk that sort of marks off the property line) while the workā€™s being done.

That is going to be a REALLY unpleasant week of WFH regardless. Ugh.

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The usual method is to throw the shingles directly into a truck of some sort. Heavy duty flatbed is ideal, but often itā€™s an over strained pick up truck instead. But the shingles canā€™t just be left there, so itā€™s easier to throw them into something you could drive them off in anyway. They have to be disposed of properly because the petroleum based.

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Huh. Whatā€™s done if a truck cannot pull up close to the building, I wonder? Even in the front, there is a sidewalk that has people walking on it frequently. I am in the city where there is almost no space between buildings (I can lean out my window and touch the building next door, should I be so inclined). On one side of the building thereā€™s no space at all, our building and theirs are right flush against each other.

That occurred to me too, that shingles could be full of chemicals that canā€™t be good for oneā€™s yard or garden, or even your lawn if thatā€™s what youā€™ve got. Good to know that some cleanup is expected and they wonā€™t just leave me or my landlord to pick up everything.

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Well, hopefully not. Is your landlord likely to sign an agreement to do cleanup themselves in order to save money? But, probably not.

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New additions. A grass experiment, some berries, and two maidenhair tree ferns

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Itā€™s amazing what happens when you use fresh seeds! Many more baby squash popped up today, from the seeds that I did curbside pick up at the farmers co-op a little while back. I also finally got the cowhorn peppers that I bought with the seeds into the ground. Getting good germination still from banana peppers, have a new round going, and repotted everything including the Next round of Roma tomatoes.

Finally, I have peas coming up everywhere, so thatā€™s good. No basil; think Iā€™m going to have to restart that. The soil was probably just too cold.

I couldnā€™t get bell pepper seeds anywhere, so I bought a red one of my last grocery pick up in hopes that itā€™s actually a ripe pepper rather than one thatā€™s been bred to turn red prematurely. From the look of he seeds, I may be in luck, and I planted some, Iā€™m trying to germinate some in paper towels, and have some laid out to dry in case any of this works. I know itā€™s probably a hybrid and I probably wonā€™t get exactly that bell pepper out of the deal, but if I get any mild pepper, Iā€™ve won. I wasnā€™t able to find seeds for any mild pepper at all - cow horns come in two varieties, I was hoping for mild, but got hot.

The first radishes I planted in the spring are about to start to flower, the ones that we didnā€™t eat, that is. There are still enough of them that Iā€™ll maybe have some seed pods for stirfries and be able to collect seeds for a fall crop. Weā€™ll see how prolific they are. I do have ground bees nesting right next to them again this year, so at least I have pollinators.

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These are all things worth asking, so, thank you!

Banana peppers do really well for me too - theyā€™re really the only ones that I can reliably grow from seed. Couldnā€™t find any seed for them though, so, maybe next year.

You are going to have quite a bounty!

I saw my first pea pod today. Hooray! Eating garden salads every couple of days - my yield isnā€™t as good as usual, but itā€™s respectable and we are not inundated with more greens than we can eat.

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Weā€™ve been a bust for greens so far, but I finally got some chard coming up. Sorry-ass soil because itā€™s new garden. Nitrogen is helping, not surprisingly.

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All mine are in containers because I didnā€™t feel like bunnyproofing the yard and we have a bunny problem here. I plunked my chard down in the community garden bed. May put in some seed too, I have tons. Chard, in my experience, withstands heat pretty well.Not that we get much heat here.

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Heat is why I have chard. That and spinach mustard are the only traditional greensi can grow in high summer (we also eat a lot of radish, turnip and rutabaga greens, and are trying out blackeyed pea leaves/ nyete greens).

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My neighbours just did their roof. In areas where the shingles canā€™t be tossed into a dumpster they will lay a tarp down to toss the shingles, etc down to keep it fairly contained. then the clean the tarp off and can haul the debris away. Itā€™s not just the shingles, itā€™s also the old nails, broken pieces, paper etc that comes down. And yes, they can be heavy. You will have to watch after they are done for old nails as they are small and can bounce off the tarp.

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