Covid-19 discussion

I deleted a bunch of stuff about Boyfriend because I feel like I’m talking a lot of shit about him here and that’s not cool. I’m just frustrated.

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We just got told our building will be closing tonight, so I’ll be switched to working from home starting tomorrow. I’m really happy, they had mentioned they might think about it at some point next week, but I’m glad they jumped on it early. I feel really lucky to have a job with this flexibility, it’s the first time in my career and it is definitely a privilege

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Thanks for the heads up :slight_smile: I edited.

As always, I don’t think you’re talking down about him. I do think you’re trying to work through a situation where your viewpoints are coming from different perspectives. :kissing_heart:

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This dog. This dog is so perfect

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I mentioned to a co-worker that I’m taking COVID-19 seriously as I have a nephew who would be decimated by it. I told this person the story (super preemie, still on oxygen and going to the hospital lots for care and appointments) and he…

I don’t understand how people can be so misinformed?

He said, “Well, he’s under 9 right? They say that kids aren’t getting it.”

No, I’m pretty sure that’s not what is happening. Kids are getting and bouncing back really well because they generally don’t have comorbidity and have immune systems that are ready to rock and roll, so they aren’t being tested and aren’t part of the data set.

If Tiny Baby were to get this, it would probably kill him as his lungs aren’t even ready to handle Earth on their own quite yet.

ETA: If I’m wrong about this please let me know.

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@Oro I believe you are right.

Also, cattening the curve:

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I think it’s a reasonable position to be super cautious if nothing else. I don’t know if there’s any data to prove it yet or not.

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My understanding is that we don’t have good data on kids who are medically fragile. The kids who have gotten COVID-19 have bounced back pretty well in China, which mostly makes them vectors, not victims. But medically fragile kids were not included in the data set.
This does not mean they are safe.

@Bracken_Joy let me know if I incorrectly summed up.

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Mid day today company told everyone who can do so to work from home effective immediately (as in, pack up everything you might need and go home early). I’m grateful to be in an industry where most people will be able to do so, and at an employer that cares.

There haven’t been any confirmed cases in my area yet, so I’m planning to make one big trip to the grocery store and then avoid any unnecessary trips to public places. I think I’m still fine to go to the park for now, though—it’s thirty acres and I usually only see a handful of people or have it entirely to myself.

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Yeah that’s my understanding as well.

And also, a general reminder that statistics are not fate. :heart: This is both good and bad.
Tiny Baby had a 10% chance of having a bad brain bleed. He still had a bad brain bleed.
We tend to (as humans, myself included) look at something and see 80% likely as meaning “I will be okay” but that’s not the same. It just isn’t. :heart:

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There is a shitty shittynshit storm of news invading my phone right now. There is also the news that Trump spent time with and shook hands with a Brazilian official who tested positive.

As the two ancient (80+) old dears were saying on the bus yesterday… “that mr. Trump thinks he can control everything but he can’t control a virus”

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Makes me think of this:

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All schools, daycares, universities, etc… will be closed in France starting Monday.
The government seems to be finally taking it seriously!
Companies are strongly encouraged to allow remote work when possible.
I hope mine will finally get the message (it is a big IT company but they are very reluctant to letting us work remotely).

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Re: social distancing. I think we all need to be doing what we can (see: cattening the curve above, very important), but this is likely going to be with us for many months. China looks like they’ve turned things around because hundreds of millions are still under lockdown. Their numbers will probably go up again once people start going back to work, and they will have to at some point because the disruptions in supply chains will become more dangerous.

Every member of my family, through our particular jobs and preschool, encounters a bunch of people in NYC. My DH is already one degree of separation from a confirmed case earlier this week. We don’t have jobs that can be done remotely, and we’re both riding mass transit to work. I fear we might get quarantined multiple times before actually getting infected. I fear dying myself: I have reactive airways and will often cough for 2 months straight after a viral illness. Because of my profession, I’ve seen more people die than the average person, and I don’t think it can’t happen to me. But, though all of this, I have to continue making a life that’s worth living to me. I continue to hug and kiss my kid, the little vector. I plan on taking him to ice skating class this weekend, as long as the rink remains open. We’re still getting together with (small groups of) friends.

This is the beginning. It’s going to be a different reality for a while, and we’re all going to have to learn to be … adaptive.

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I believe that’s correct. We really cannot extrapolate what will happen to medically fragile kids right now. Especially those on respiratory support, which is my patient population. Our company is on really high alert protocols right now. We’re treating them as insanely high risk, as is the best course of action right now.

I especially think we can’t assume outcomes for micro preemie and ventilator dependent kids in the Chinese data set, because from my understanding there’s no known representation of them in that data.

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I just finished watching the president allocution. All schools, daycares and universities are closed until further notice. I am waiting to see what my company will decide. What I loved about this is that unlike Trump who once again reacted by blaming others and closing the doors, there were a lot of concern and concrete measures to allow people to keep their jobs and be paid even if they can’t WFH. France is a great country and I trust the government is adequately preparing and is aware of all the consequences. So that part is reassuring. I’m also thinking that the communities will pull together and organize themselves. In LG’s school all the parents are in a WhatsApp group and we’re talking about alternating watching the kids. I’m just worried that it’ll accomplish the opposite of what was intended by closing the schools.

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A friend who organizes a meetup group agrees with me that once we know things are bad, it’s too late. He also won’t suspend his group until things get worse.

HARD SIGH.

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Studio #1 was having meetings today to decide the course forward, I’ve not heard the final decision other than agreement to cancel the class for people with limitations who cannot do a normal class. That absolutely had to happen, I’ve touched base with several who would not have continued attending even if class had not been canceled.

Crickets from Studio #2, which is making me a little angry. I think this is a no-brainer, but even if they think I am over-reacting, I’d at least like my email to be acknowledged. If I quit I need to give notice and cover classes. I could post for subs, but that doesn’t address the real problem which is we need to flat out cancel classes for a while. And I teach there in a little while which I’m not thrilled about.

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I’m in Colorado, which as I understand has few confirmed cases, but it annoys me that one of the head Honchos sent out an email basically saying “in response to Coronavirus, people should wash their hands.”

Basically “we’re doing nothing. Good luck!”

Guuuuuuuuuuuuuh

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