Covid-19 discussion

I think my county is worse last time I checked, too :joy: certainly we have like half the vaccination rate lol.

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You know whatā€™s funny? The data absolutely does not prove this but I actually feel less anxious about doing things after we move than I do now, because at least in New Orleans outdoor is an option while here it is less so. That is completely illogical but here we are.
(I mean, I wouldnā€™t eat indoors in either location, but here that means I donā€™t eat out at all, and there it means I can at least sit outside on SOME days.)

I dunno. Iā€™m still terrified of long covid. Maybe thatā€™s dumb and I should just accept itā€™s a possibility and stop trying so hard to not get it.

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I wish I could tell if Iā€™m not afraid of covid anymore, or Iā€™m just really, really tired.

But yea the risk-reward factor is the main thing Iā€™ve been using. For me, the reward of better mental and physical health outweighs the risks of skating in a mall. Not positive the risk of indoor dining outweighs the reward? I wouldnā€™t do it if SSOā€™s parents hadnā€™t wanted to invite us for our anniversary, and we didnā€™t let them come to the wedding a year ago (because the county was under strict gathering restrictions at the time).

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Yes, the risk-reward factor is exactly what Iā€™m talking about. Iā€™m swimming at the pool to exercise over the winter because I need it. Things that matter less to me like seeing movies, I take a pass on. And so on.

Given how widespread omicron is, I figured the probability of NOT getting it sometime in January was zero. Especially since I flew after Christmas. Given that itā€™s February and Iā€™m still here, Iā€™m even less worried.

If you want to go, go, and have a great time.

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I donā€™t know either - Iā€™ve been far less cautious than you this pandemic despite similarly high or higher risk factors, but Iā€™m also watching a friend who has long-covid deal with very serious health issues with no real solutions for it, and I lost an uncle to covid. But you know, life carries risks but it isnā€™t meant to not live. I figure skate, ffs - a super dangerous sport where I wear no protective equipment. I travel to countries that have level 4 state department warnings alone. I have risks of long-term complications from heaps of illnesses.

I genuinely donā€™t know. I know that being constantly afraid of other humans and going outside is NOT great either. Anxiety sucks.

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Yeah, even before omicron I would dine indoors (vax passports) or swim because those matter. I wouldnā€™t see a movie or an indoor live show because those donā€™t matter to me.

The anniversary dinner with your in laws sounds like itā€™s a hard decision because the benefits arenā€™t clear and it isnā€™t part of your normal math. Personally Iā€™d either say yes or say yes to celebrating with them in a different fancy way. But Iā€™m not you and you arenā€™t me. And your math is harder too because it involves things like the benefits of family relationships where itā€™s hard to calculate how this event impacts those.

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I think I reached the point where I was more afraid of what continued isolation could do to my mental health.

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^^ Same, but mostly with exercise/skating. Positive moods = Better Physical Health outcomes, we have the data on that.

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I think weā€™re going to dinner. We chose a restaurant that has outdoor covered dining with heaters, and weā€™re getting there right as they open. Hope weā€™re not like ā€œoh crap, that was how we got sickā€ in two weeks :joy::sob:

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It really, really does and Iā€™m sorry youā€™re grappling with it too.

I am not mentally ready to do indoor dining yet. I have eaten indoors exactly twice since February 2020 and they were both in that magical couple of months where we had been vaccinated, but delta hadnā€™t hit yet. Iā€™m healthy and donā€™t have any risk factors regarding covid, but I donā€™t think my anxiety would let me dine inside yet. I am still continuing to rock climb indoors, but my gym has a vaccination AND mask requirement, so that helps bend my brain around the risk factors. I donā€™t want covid if I can help it.

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Right there with you, my friend :heart:

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Actually, Iā€™m not really struggling with it with regards to covid, this is more a general empathy. But I think youā€™re making a good risk calculus with rock climbing vs doing other things that cause you anxiety.

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Yā€™all, amazing news!

Covid is over in Iowa!

We cannot continue to suspend duly enacted laws and treat COVID-19 as a public health emergency indefinitely. After two years, itā€™s no longer feasible or necessary.

I wonder if someone told the hospitals it wasnā€™t necessaryā€¦

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Iā€™m sorry - weā€™re so at the other end of the spectrum over here! Weā€™ve had a mask mandate indoors for all but 2 weeks of the whole pandemic. They just extended the mask mandate for in schools ā€œindefinitelyā€

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I agree with risk-reward factor. I went to the goth club, which was crowded, because that was good for my mental health and worth some risk. I did not drink while there because I didnā€™t want to get covid because I just HAD to take off my mask to chug some mediocre alcohol.

I got on a plane and went to New Orleans - absolutely worth the risk. Eating in a restaurant? Meh. I kinda miss it but I donā€™t want THAT to be the way I get covid. That to me is not worth it. Ditto for unnecessary shopping, or going to the gym (though that last oneā€™s starting to wear on me; I cancelled my membership tho so itā€™s a moot point.)

ETA: it helps my mental health knowing that for me thereā€™s a light at the end of the tunnel, sorta? In a little over a month I will be somewhere where outdoor activity is a hell of a lot more possible and even enjoyable. And I feel fine about outdoor stuff as long as it is not packed body to body. Which, TBH, I wasnā€™t a fan of in the Before either :rofl:

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This seems like a good way to do it.

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2 weeks after I got the first dose last March I resumed my life despite being 67 and having asthma and HBP. I go to restaurants at least twice a week, movies, friends and my meetup groups. I am surprised that I havenā€™t caught it. I have 2 friends in nursing homes that I visit weekly.

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I think about 10 days ago MI had around 17,000 cases per day. Today itā€™s like 4900! Hopefully there isnā€™t a new worse variant waiting in the wingsā€¦

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Gut check.

My aunt just came from Florida. Sheā€™s triple vaxxed and has no symptoms but isnā€™t quarantining or masking up or getting tested.

My initial reaction was to immediately say no to going to visit the family home with my unvaccinated 3 year old.

Am I overreacting? Is asymptomatic spread overblown?

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