Covid-19 discussion

Wow. Did you actually get to really feel like you skated at all or was it too crowded?

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5 cases from an unvaccinated backpacker. Welcome to the beach, COVID.

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I mostly skated when they Zambonied and needed help getting the snow off the ice so I went out with the snow pusher alone before they let everyone back on :joy: got my upper body in too as that shovel is heavy

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Thatā€™s an excellent question! Worth calling the venue, Iā€™d say. What is the venue, again?

Per Block club: https://blockclubchicago.org/2021/12/21/proof-of-covid-19-vaccine-required-for-chicago-bars-restaurants-gyms-starting-jan-3-heres-what-to-know/

Indoor dining spots

  • Restaurants.
  • Bars.
  • Fast food establishments.
  • Coffee shops.
  • Tasting rooms.
  • Cafeterias.
  • Food courts.
  • Dining areas of grocery stores.
  • Breweries.
  • Wineries.
  • Distilleries.
  • Banquet halls.
  • Hotel ballrooms

I donā€™t see an exemption for private events? But who knows.

Oh, also:

  • Commercial event and party venues.

In case your venue falls into that category?

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Past week has seen a positive employee case at 3 of 4 locations where i work. :upside_down_face:

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Almost everybody at Sprouts is masked except the ONE DUDE BEHIND ME in this interminable line but I asked him to give me the full six feet and he backed up!

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Hahahaā€¦I appreciate your political savvy in wanting to blame the law. Iā€™d just be like ā€œYOU CANT SIT WITH USā€

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Whether it officially does or doesnā€™t, you could always ā€˜understandā€™ it that way and be very sad when you notify them

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{counting on fingers how many friends have tested positive despite triple vaxx in the past week}

{runs out of fingers}

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Iā€™m trying to remember where I read the articleā€¦but I think the point isnā€™t that the vaccine will prevent positives. That is not what itā€™s supposed to do. Itā€™s supposed to prevent symptomatic and/or severe disease. So maybe letting go of this metric will give us all a bit more peace?

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If the backlash would settle on me Iā€™d be fine doing that haha but I donā€™t wanna get my mom in trouble :weary:

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Oh HELL yeah I think weā€™re in that last bullet :raised_hands::raised_hands::raised_hands::raised_hands:

Will obvi check with the venue after the holidays.

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Yep. Exactly this.

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Yeahā€¦ I wish there were more data about omicron long covid, but obviously weā€™re WAY out from actual stats on that.

Everyone I know whoā€™s positive is symptomatic. Some with bad cold symptoms, some with bad flu symptoms. But it is true that no oneā€™s in the hospital!

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Iā€™m at my folks house and listened to some interesting discussion. Thereā€™s mandates for pretty much everyone working to get vaccinated.

Apparently small business owners are feeling the pain from having to let staff go due to no vaccinations, but also getting any vaccinations arenā€™t in their contract so they have to make redundant instead of fire them, which costs them money in payouts. I donā€™t know how to check this. I have seen articles about cafes etc shutting down in the regional areas (anywhere not Perth) because they canā€™t get staff, sand have had to lay off as much as 70% of their staff (e.g. 7 people from a team of 10).

Aunt who relayed this info also said most people she knows are hesitant, not anti, and just "wanted to see what the vaccine did to people after a year because it was rushed (which they can only do because thereā€™s no COVID here).

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Well crap. My friend contractorā€™s wife just tested positive for COVID. He doesnā€™t have any symptoms (yet?) but he was just here yesterday and now maybe we have it too. Will plan to go to urgent care on Monday and get tested.

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Its a government mandate, My work will be terminating employment based on the fact that non vaccinated staff are ā€œnot ready willing and able to come to workā€ we wonā€™t be making them redundant but will pay out leave entitlements.

I assume thatā€™s the same for most businesses. I think 75% of West Australians jobs are mandated for the vaccine

But yes it is causing skills shortages

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Victoria also has a skills shortage in many industries and it seems to be more attributed to the fact that many international students, visitors and people on temp visas returned home, rather than the vaccine mandates. Vic also has vaccine mandates across a wide range of industries including hospitality and now about 92% of age 12+ are vaccinated. Regional areas are generally better on vax rates than metro.

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We are the opposite I western australia, better Vax rates in the city.

I think the skills shortage is also due to lack of international workers and also lack of interstate workers. We had heaps of people who previously flew to work from over east but have had to quit because they couldnā€™t travel over for work.

People refusing the vaccine at my work place was less than 5% for FTE but some of our contractors had higher numbers

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