Covid-19 discussion

From what I can see, they seem to say people are not and/or less contagious 10 days after their symptoms appeared.

So 24 days after the first person’s symptoms?

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So GF is isolating, he is quarantining with her, and they haven’t separated from each other since her +covid test? She needs to isolate for at least 10 days; this period can end as long as she has been fever-free off of any fever reducers for 24h, and she’s getting better. His quarantine period begins from last contact with the possible contagious period, so yes, it would be altogether 24 days like Otter says above if they’re not making any attempt to stay away from each other.

Where I work, there are these “asymptomatic exposed” housing areas, after we isolate the people who’ve a +covid test, where the people who’ve been exposed are quarantined. But then other positive cases eventually pop up, resetting the quarantine period, and people can end up being quarantined for a long time.

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That makes sense, but it’s going to be rough. As a family we can manage the financial end, but the mental health side is a real struggle for her. She’s already not doing great with it.

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SHE is done with isolation 10 days after her positive test, even if they’re staying together & not distancing. After that, she can go about her life as she did before. And she doesn’t need to re-test, since there could still be non-viable virus around.

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I think I’m not being clear. My daughter (Kid-4) keeps testing negative. Her GF’s was the positive test. So Kid-4’s quarantine is 24 days from GF’s positive test, right? Sorry to be dense. This is all confusing the hell out of me.

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I believe you count from the start of symptoms, not the positive test, based on this from the CDC:

You can be around others after:
10 days since symptoms first appeared and
24 hours with no fever without the use of fever-reducing medications and
Other symptoms of COVID-19 are improving (loss of taste and smell may persist for weeks or months after recovery and need not delay the end of isolation​)

So add a 14 day exposed-to-a-covid-positive-person quarantine to that, and Kid-4’s quarantine is 24 days from GF’s first symptom.

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Thank you!

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Right, and sorry for the gender assumptions. And I do believe it’s what zygote says above about symptoms. (We go by +test where I work for logistical reasons.)

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If things are tough MH-wise, Kid-4 could also reduce total quarantine time to 20d, assuming she remains asymptomatic. Then self-monitor for symptoms for an additional 4 days.

With this strategy, the residual transmission risk is reduced to 1%:

The CDC also says to follow your local health guidance. NYS where I am I think still officially says quarantine can end 10d after last exposure. I think you are in CA? Which also currently says 10d.

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And just to confuse you some more, I think it would not be irresponsible for Kid-4 to quarantine a total of 17 days, assuming she remains asymptomatic. She should get tested on day 15 before she exits quarantine and continue to self-monitor for symptoms, socially distance as much as possible, and wear a good mask for an additional 7 days.

Estimated residual transmission risk 4-5%, but the motto of the pandemic has been, “don’t allow perfect to be the enemy of the good.” It’s been all about a balance between MH and physical health and what people can reasonably do. Some people have had to quarantine repeatedly through all of this.

As a HCW, I’ve been around covid patients all the time. There’s no requirement for quarantine when HCWs are wearing PPE. But let’s be honest: nobody uses PPE perfectly all the time. Because of our exposure as a family, we haven’t podded up with anyone, and we’ve been wearing good masks since the beginning, but we haven’t been living our lives in any kind of strict quarantine.

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Thank you. You’ve been a huge help to all of us here throughout this thing.

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Yes to this! Thank you thank you.

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@TNT can you or kid or kidgf call public health and ask? And give them the dates of symptoms and tests? This might be all very Canadian of me, but here anyone can call public health and ask questions. And unlike billable health services, they can do things anonymously. For example, I’ve lived in both peel and Toronto public health units and they are great. I could call and say "hey, my kid and her gf are trying to quarantine properly but I think with the stress they are getting confused. Can you help me help them: gf tested positive on the xx, and started symptoms on xy. Kid and gf live together in a space yay big with n bathrooms and are/not still sleeping together are/not wearing ppe. Kid is testing negative when does her isolation end. And when gf symptoms end, does she need a test or to wait?

Like I said…Toronto or peel health units would probably love to help.

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Good idea! I’ll see what we can find.

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Is the covid vaccine seasonal like the flu, or long term, but maybe needs boosters, like MMR/tetanus etc?

Are people going to need a new set of vaccines before they even get to the general population? This is going so slow…

Like…if this was the flu…by the time they even do the “1” groups- it’s going to be flu season again.

Does the end of the line ever get this thing?

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My understanding is that we’re predicting in between.

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Short answer seems to be- we don’t know yet. :confused:

But as for the position in line situation, the multitude of options coming to market should help.

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Woohoo! My Dad got the invite to make an appointment and will get his 1st dose on Sunday.

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Along the same lines, does anybody know if new “boosters” of the Covid vaccine need to go through the full gauntlet of testing for FDA approval? Or will it be like the flu vaccine?

I imagine that the flu vaccine every year doesn’t get the full test regime, right? I actually have no idea how the flu vaccine is approved by the FDA even though I get it every year.

I’ve been trying to google this question but haven’t hit on the right search terms.

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Ten days ago my parents were around number 1800 in their county’s waitlist. They got their first vaccines today.

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