Covid-19 discussion

My cats apparently also do not give a shit because they’ve been honky dory.

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One of my cats brought a toy into the shower today (shower was off; they just think it’s a fun place to play). Should I be building a bunker or something??


More on topic, my grandparents have all received their first doses of the vaccine. Two of them had covid in late fall and had some soreness and fatigue after the vaccine. They should all be getting the second dose in February.

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Larry king died of covid?!?!

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Yeah, he’d been in the hospital over a month because of it :cry:

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Every article I read says that we need to now double mask or use KN95s or N95s even if we are just stepping inside a building - and the juxtaposition of this with “heeeeeey, let’s fling the outdoor dining doors wide open, and also open schools unsafely” really has me seeing red today.

If it is so bad out there that we now need better or doubled masks and cannot rely on a single cloth mask even if it has multiple layers… explain to me how it’s OK to remove a mask in public around people to eat or drink?

I know I am preaching to the choir here. Just feeling really angry today about it.

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The “don’t worry, covid won’t get you while you have food in your mouth” thing has always made no sense to me.

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Or while you are drinking alcohol! Because clearly the booze will kill off the virus! Maybe we should all put it in a neti pot and wash the covid out of our nasal cavities!

(Also, the covid won’t get you until after 10 p.m. which is why restaurants have early closures now. :roll_eyes: )

I mean… I know the argument is, well of COURSE you can’t eat or drink with a mask on so it’s OK to remove it for that. When the argument should be, of COURSE you can’t eat or drink with a mask on so therefore eating and drinking should only happen indoors with your own household or possibly outdoors and well spaced… though I won’t do outdoor dining either due to the risk to the servers.

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I am not seeing how I could wear multiple masks! Maybe if they were different kinds, like one tied around the head and the other had ear loops?

This did, however, remind me to go to the kitchen and cut up a coffee filter to stuff in the filter pocket. I used to have bits of a special HVAC filter, but I lost them. Maybe I should get another one. My cloth masks are custom made to fit my smaller-than-usual face and are triple layer (if you count how the filter pocket is made) with nonwoven interfacing and a filter pocket. I wear an N95 for my desk shifts (sitting 6 feet away from another masked person for an hour, interacting with the public).

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There was actually an article in the NY times today about whether curfews slow covid. I skimmed it, and it didn’t really seem to say much.

That said, I can understand the idea behind it. There isn’t much to do after 10 pm but go to a bar or something like that anyway. We don’t want people in bars or movie theaters. So the curfew idea makes sense to me.

I went to the doctor Friday and tried two masks. My normally comfortable mask bent my ears over and then popped off after 10 minutes. I don’t think I can wear two masks unless I make some that tie behind my ears.

Our Covid rates are the lowest they’ve been in awhile. (Which is to say, still quite bad).
I think we will be unlikely to switch to N95s, only because I can’t stand the idea of disosables, but we isolate very heavily anyway. The doctor was the first time I’ve been inside a building other than my house this year. (I went into a store twice in December.) My kids do go to daycare though- the older one wears a mask, the younger one is too young to. So that obviously introduces a lot of risk, but we still feel it’s important to isolate from anyone else not in those classrooms.

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I wore a double mask to the grocery store this weekend. First mask was an ooold KN95 from our garage, purchased for some old painting project. Two straps, one went lower by the bottom of my hair line by my neck, the other went above my pony tail. Second mask was double layer cloth with ear loops. It did feel harder to breathe but I lived and didn’t faint or anything silly like that. The nose part of the KN95 felt okay at first but was a little too tight and was very uncomfortable after a while but I didn’t want to mess with it at that point.

I have no idea if this is correct but the KN95 has been hung up and will probably not be used till two weeks from now (we have two KN95s). The cloth one goes into a laundry bag and gets washed then hung up for reuse.

One odd thing was I felt like maybe I’d be judged if I wore just the KN95? Like someone would see it and be like “Why doesn’t a health care worker have that!?!?” Um, because it’s been in my garage for dog knows how long that’s why.

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You can buy or make an “ear saver” which is basically just a strip of cloth with buttons on it. You hook the mask on the buttons instead of your ears.

For example:

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I have some bra strap connectors that do the same thing and are probably cheaper! But they do mask the mask hit in a different place.

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I always double mask but mostly so I can reuse my N95 a million times.

As far as people judging, people will judge for all sorts of weird stuff and the people that would think badly about you wearing a KN95 aren’t likely the people that have any clue about supply chains for hospitals or which types of N95 hospitals are using. I wouldn’t worry about it because it doesn’t matter what you’re wearing when people want to be judgy.

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Yeah- my husband has something like this for his masks.

But I wear masks for about 3 minutes a day, just while I wait for my kids to come outside of daycare.
The doctors office was a rare excursion.

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I’ve seen recommendations for a cloth mask over a KN95. One style of cloth mask that I have fits over a KN95 nicely - it’s the more fitted, sort of oval style, not the pleated kind, and has ties. My pleated ones all have ear loops and that definitely would not work for doubling up.

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Also, this doesn’t affect me but it is crazy.

Why is it that the SECOND ICU capacity gets a tiny bit better or cases go down a tiny bit, the doors are flung open? Why is the bar “well, the ICU can probably fit you in and find a vent for you.” Never mind, I know why, $$$$$.

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Yeah, because they don’t have the money to bail out all the failing businesses so they’re doing the bare minimum for them and increasing the risk for everyone.

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One of the points they raised about a curfew here was that it would be easier to enforce rules that people were already breaking

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We are using monkeys from a barrel I ordered when masks first became a thing.

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Well this is fantastic and just brightened up my whole day.

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