If the mask doesn’t have a wire nosepiece it probably doesn’t matter.
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Oh, I was thinking inside out vs upside down. Yeah, the pinchable part goes on top for sure.
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Oof, some masks have a mesh part on the outside. If you wear it inside out it sticks to your lips ALL DAY and it’s terrible. Ew.
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Yeah some have that shitty plasticky feeling too, makes your mouth feel weirdly muggy instantly if it’s inside out. Bleh. Some I’ve used it doesn’t seem to matter though.
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Sigh. In other news, the pope’s Catholic and bears shit in the woods.
Can’t say I am surprised.
I guess the plus side is, if nothing exists he doesn’t have to undo anything bad?
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I saw this too, and it doesn’t surprise me either. I suspected part of why the Trump Administration refused to work with the incoming Biden Administration was because everything was in such a state of disarray and chaos. I think they didn’t want that to come to light any sooner than necessary.
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I assume the COVID plan was right next to the new Healthcare plan.
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ARGH.
FFS.
{continues hiding in house, wonders if takeout delivery is even safe any more}
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Whoa, i’m interested in this - is anyone else getting PPE issued by their health insurance company/health care system? The only thing I know here is employer-issued.
Congrats on getting on a vaccine list @jellaba!
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Hi Lily,
from healthcare system/government only people older than 60 plus all people who have preconditions out of a list, despite their age, get these free masks (there is a 2 Euro copay for a pack of six masks).
With the new coronavirus order in Germany, usage of public transport and entering any store, gas station, public building etc. requires mandatory usage of a medical/FFP mask, beginning coming Monday.
The same list of preconditions is the foundation for the vaccine list. Medical personnel is of course at the front of the list, together with all residents of institutional care (nursing homes, assisted living facilities etc.).
Jellaba
Edit: I am on the list due to asthma
Here the list of preconditions:
- chronic obstructive pulmonary disease or bronchial asthma,
- chronic heart failure,
- Chronic renal failure stage ≥ 4,
- Dementia or stroke,
- Type 2 diabetes mellitus,
- Active, progressive, or metastatic cancer or chemotherapy or radiotherapy that may compromise the immune response,
- Organ or stem cell transplantation that has taken place,
- Trisomy 21
- High-risk pregnancy.
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This is super interesting! Also surprised to see Trisomy 21 on that list, I didn’t know folks had different outcomes. Thank you for all the info.
Here the only masks I know people are getting are employer-issued, if they work in public-facing or health care jobs, but that’s up to the discretion of the employer.
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I can see several reasons for inclusion. For one, there’s commonly respiratory complications. A lot of the kids we get it work with trachs (or trach to vent) have trisomy 21. (It’s the single most common diagnosis among our patients). Also, there’s often immune insufficiencies. Finally, there’s a lot of common cardiac problems like cardiomegaly, that increase the risk of blood clotting issues, which Covid also increases. My understanding is that the cardiac and respiratory issues in particular are why, until recently, there was a very poor expected lifespan for individuals with trisomy 21.
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Massive relief: I was able to schedule my second dose of the vaccine. I was stressing there for a hot minute haha.
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Are you wondering about takeout or about delivery?
Takeout, maybe questionable- since length of exposure matters, but you would have to go inside briefly.
Delivery- I am not an expert, but from what my husband has told me (he is a PhD medicinal chemist, and is a researcher who makes custom sequences of DNA/RNA) food delivery is pretty much safe. If you are worried about droplets, wipe the outside of packages down, and use your own utensils, and wash your hands before and after plating the food; but the spread seems to be much more from aerosolized particles, and you will have no exposure from that. Even early on in the pandemic, he told me that food was pretty much safe, because the receptors this virus has to attach to are not in the digestive track. You can EAT the virus that causes covid 19 and not get it. Just don’t snort it.
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Yeah, we’ve been doing solely delivery ever since I went briefly into the local bar and grill down the street to pick up an order, and while I was standing there, the booth right by the door was filled with dudes loudly laughing with no masks on. I mean, yes, they were eating and drinking. But it felt super unsafe. I don’t think we are going to go back to in person pickup for a while.
We generally transfer the food to our own dishes, toss all the containers, and wash hands after. Just in case someone coughed on them.
So far, every delivery person has had a mask on, over the past couple months! Win!
Noted, do not snort food! LOL.
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No word on whether laughing so hard you spit milk out your nose transfers the virus or not.
I feel like maybe they haven’t studied it. Why not?
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I knew N95s were effective but have never heard them praised in this strong of terms. I feel like there is still a lot of messaging out there that we shouldn’t buy them if we’re not healthcare. If someone hadn’t posted links to this forum to sites that are selling them to everyone, it never would’ve occurred to me to even look, and now we have some arriving probably early next week, looks like.
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My husband has an annual fitting appt for n. 95s. Does it really work to just buy one if they aren’t properly fitted?
I don’t know? I have KN95s too and that has instructions on how to ensure a proper fit, on the package. I guess I assumed that N95s would have similar instructions? Is there more to it than, if you can feel air leaking out when you breathe, then your fit is no good?
I plan to put a cloth mask or 2 over them anyway…
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Well assuming our healthcare workers are all vaccinated soon, maybe we can be spared some N95s?
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