Covid-19 discussion

one of my sisters is a GP

“I’ve started working some evenings in the [city] vaccine clinic - vaccinating health care workers and essential caregivers. It’s been one of the the most positive experience in awhile. Starting to see a tiny light at the end of the tunnel.”

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Um. Can someone explain to me the difference between the $79 and $30 and $4 masks here?

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Well, the $30 is a pack of 20. Not sure on $79

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I’ve heard good things about reading. I should try it sometime.

Thank you. The idea of being the one on store duty both excites and absolutely terrifies me.

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Is there still a PPE shortage and/or an ethics dilemma when buying proper masks? Asking all y’all smart ppl

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You could send them this tweet… https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1347200811303055364?s=20

As for all the grocery store stuff, I wonder if my risk assessment is just out of whack. I take public transit every day to work in person, and the grocery store doesn’t feel any less safe than that? But everyone’s still pretty good about masks and distancing here. Maybe it’s giving me a false sense of security. If I were to become exposed or reinfected, I would definitely get groceries delivered for the duration of quarantine. But for now I’m going to keep going to TJ’s once a week and hope their protocols are good enough.

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I cackled :joy: happens to the best of us!

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No shortage here. But also illegal to sell to non hcp

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I think it can vary a lot on where you live and shop too. Even just between where we lived before and here, it’s a totally different grocery shopping experiences. The size of the store, the protocols for how many people they let in, how wide the isles are, how high the ceiling is. It can be radically different. Also your capacity to shop during off-peak hours.

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Text below. In case anyone knows anyone!

The fastest way out of this pandemic is through mass vaccination - which includes KIDS! But before we can vaccinate kids, we need safety data from clinical trials.

Pfizer has been studying children age 12-17 since the fall of 2020 and will (likely) start expanding to younger ages in the spring.

Moderna is now enrolling kids age 12-17 but they are struggling to get the numbers needed. If you have a child in this age who is interested in participating, please check out this article for links to register (unfortunately locations are limited).

For those in Cincinnati, I will post a link in comments for a site enrolling adolescents in Cincinnati specifically.

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The $79 mask is reusable, and comes with 10 filters. I don’t have one myself, but I hear it makes a really good seal, though it can be hard to talk through.

The $30 masks are for a 20-pack and the cheapest of the options. They are made by a company that is US-based and has NIOSH-approval, and the factories are in China and Vietnam.

The $4 masks are per mask and made in the USA.

NIOSH-approved N95 masks seem to be available to the general public from a variety of sources (including Amazon) right now. With the more transmissible variant(s) taking hold, seems better for people to buy & use them, rather than for PPE to be sitting in a warehouse.

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I did not know this! (Not that I have a practical use for the information, just interesting.)

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Why is there a lack of supply of vaccine? Is it that Trump didn’t approve enough? Does it simply take time to produce?

I just read that in Michigan a healthy person under 65 may not get it until August.

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I think this is part of it:

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This makes me see red. I hope to god this isn’t actually very common: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/thousands-covid-19-vaccines-wind-garbage-because-fed-state-guidelines-n1254364

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I know there was a big hubbaloo here a few weeks ago because a vaccination clinic happening in a mall had people not show up so the doctors offered shots to folks who had been there shopping. They have since promised it will not happen again. This leads me to believe that they will toss vaccine doses rather than deal with that backlash.

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I don’t think it stops anyone. But in March the government locked down the supply chain, so now there is a registry of suppliers (and presumably the government can, at any point switch it to how it was in March when RMTs, physics, NDs and dentists couldn’t get any - so that it went to front line workers. I also think that’s part of why non emergent health care was shut and deemed non essential). It’s not well controlled. I buy mine from the sign shop in the closest industrial area which has giant roadside signs advertising (small letters say for healthcare only). And while in the line chatting everyone in line for surgical masks and higher was healthcare, they don’t ask. They also sell sports masks, and presumably signs to the general public.

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They are trying to formalize this here. There’s been some backlash about non frontline staff getting vaccines, followed by discussing what to do with doses close to expiry. Our vax rate is also atrocious

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At least for Pfizer, Trump did decline to get extra doses before they were sold to other countries, so more doses for the US won’t be made for awhile.

Distribution is also an issue.

As is confusion on who gets the vaccine- a lot of vaccine doses are sitting waiting to be used…

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Well shit. Portland area resident. UK strain. No travel history.

https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/ORDHS/bulletins/2b9a655

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