Covid-19 discussion

The second one. I’m not against it against it, but I’m not convinced that it belongs on the mandatory vaccine schedule

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A quick google search leads me to this article, which I think does a good job of why I think it’s good on the mandatory vaccine schedule.


The chance of an adverse reaction is much less than the chance of hospitalization for serious complications of the disease.

(There are also some economic reasons that make countries want kids to get it- workers aren’t productive when they are at home with sick kids…)

I’ve mostly changed my mind on the covid vaccine, I would get it today if offered, though it still makes me very nervous. But at the rate we are going, it will be 2050 before I get it.

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I’m going to switch this to pm

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From the article you posted, this is one of the big issues:

And vaccination may pose a public health risk that, paradoxically, further supports the idea that you should inoculate your kid. Some researchers posit that people who catch chickenpox as kids should be re-exposed to the virus throughout life to boost their immunity; research suggests, for instance, that adults who are frequently exposed to chickenpox are less likely to develop shingles. Since so many fewer kids are running around with chickenpox now, some researchers worry that this immune-boosting effect is disappearing and that those of us who had the infection as kids are going to experience a “major epidemic” of shingles in the coming years. (This is partly why, in 2006, the CDC began recommending a single dose of shingles vaccine for adults over the age of 60—the idea is that the vaccine will help provide the missing immune boost.) This potential problem—while still unproven—could be a public health drawback to widespread varicella vaccination

And I have a few other issues, as you mentioned, I don’t think that the economics of lost worker productivity are a good reason to vaccinate. But basically I am much more skeptical of chicken pox as a routine vax. I don’t agree with the choices made around this vaccine, but I’m not the person to fight it

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There’s so much standard medicine has absolutely no clue about that’s vitally important to people’s lives.

One thing that could definitely be better about the vaccine roll-out is the messaging & honest public debate about the benefits and also what is unknown. I heard there’s a NY hospital system that had all these talks about the new vaccines & invited people to ask questions, and they had >90% vaccine uptake.

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4 hours post vaccine, my arm has started to get sore. No other side effects yet.

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At least one lawmaker mentioned in an interview that there was real concern that the hours that the lawmakers and aides all spent sheltering in cramped quarters due to today’s events held the potential to be a superspreader event, since they are not required to be tested every day (only that they had the opportunity to be tested frequently).

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We know people who attended a super spreader Christmas… depending on how many it takes to be a super spreader

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Ethics check. I can get my vaccine now. I’m not seeing any patients though. Do I do it? I’m in Washington state.

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Everyone yelled at me to do it.

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Don’t you see people though? I’m not working. But I’m technically still employed as a nurse. And thus qualify. Would I be taking a vaccine from someone who actually needs it though, or just part of that supply that may not get used?

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I’ve been at home since March 12th. I see basically no one except my husband.

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I’m not part of a vulnerable group and not taking any meds that increase my risk.

I guess my big Q is, how do I evaluate the likelihood that someone else would successfully get my dose, or that it would go bad first?

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Do it now because you may want to see patients before it wraps back around to you, if you don’t do it now.

(You may not see patients & taking it doesn’t obligate you to. But it could be 5 or 6 months - or more - and there are SOME circumstances that could arise that would cause you to take a patient.)

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I agree. The last group (I’m part of it) won’t even start until May at the earliest. If there is the possibility that you might start seeing patients before then, I’d hedge my bets and get it now.

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It sounds like the distribution of this vaccine in your state is pretty bonkers. so don’t take on the burden of having to figure out whether your shot could go to someone else, IMHO. There’s no way of knowing and that’s not your job! Your job as a responsible citizen is to get vaccinated when you can, right? :heart:

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HMM that is a very good point. My job is our economic backup plan, and there is one patient still that if specific things came up in their family, I would go back to cover shifts for a period to help. Small odds, but entirely possible.

I know Oregon is doing poorly but I don’t know how Washington is doing. I’m in a weird spot- risk pool, Oregon is way more relevant to my life. I’m part of Portland metro. But I’m actually located in Washington.

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Please get the vaccine. It’s a great gift you’re being offered.

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Do it do it do it do it

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Alright. Reached out to get my name on the list. We’ll see if my company is still good with me getting it on their name since I haven’t worked forrr like Um 2+ years? :grimacing::grimacing::grimacing: but they’re not getting a supply- it’s an area clinic through state Health Services I guess.

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