A US Election Thread Where We Will Be Nice to One Another (but not to seditionists)

Jumping in mostly because I want to follow. I hope against all hope that we don’t have another Trump presidency.

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I want Ginsberg to retire on inauguration day, and go home to the sweetest nap anyone has ever taken.

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I hope this still qualifies as being nice?
Most of my POC friends on Facebook are very distressed by this pick. They say that despite being a POC herself, she is too cop-friendly and does not fight for other POC.

I need to do more research on my own about this. But I keep reading about how we need to believe POC when they say there is a concern about a candidate so am working hard to do that.

The same criticisms were leveled against our mayor, who is Black, before the election, and unfortunately, those criticisms are proving to be true, so I might be hypersensitive to this right now.

Still voting Biden-Harris. Obviously. But I fear many POC are just going to not vote because they feel they now have two damaging and dangerous choices.

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I’ve seen those same comments, but I’ve also seen a ton of people being really excited. While I am not a fan of Harris, I do think more people are going to be happy about this pick than not, especially people who are probably not on social media a lot.

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Yeah, that’s probably true.
The mayor’s been such a disaster for racial justice here so far that I admit I’m probably disproportionally worried of a repeat on the federal level. That’s not really fair of me.

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I haven’t extensively researched Kamala, but I have followed her on fb for 6 years as my senator. I don’t recall her expressing a position I disagreed with. Yes, she was AG of CA, which work closer with police than is strictly appropriate, but as Senator she has condemned police brutality. My biggest concern about her as a candidate was only 6 years experience in DC. I think she is very strong minded and polarizing to the right, and I couldn’t see her being effective facilitating cooperation from both parties. She’s been very “We must do this and GOP are idiots!!” which is a great representation of my views, but maybe wouldn’t fly as President. She does seem to adapt to the position she holds at any given time, so maybe this isn’t fair, but I had no other data to go off of.

I wonder if some of the backlash she is getting is from the same source as “Hillary is a liar,” in spite of Hillary being one of the most factual and objective politicians out there. They are both ambitious women, and we know that makes some people very uncomfortable.

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In a lighthearted way as a non-voter I’m excited to see Maya Rudolph back on SNL a lot for the next 4 years. A little optimistic.

The Canadian news was promoting that KH went to high school in Montreal so hopefully that influenced her.

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Welp this is how I feel. :man_shrugging:t3:

And generally…

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I have at least two not-settlers I know :face_with_raised_eyebrow: . I guess, with them being in Illinois, it likely won’t matter (Obama’s home state going to Trump? After all his comments about Chicago? cmon!) But I don’t understand how after Trump and Brexit protest votes are still a thing. Your protest does nothing. Make a choice.

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My completely not backed up by anything opinion is that the Brexit vote from earlier this year confirms that Trump will be reelected. Because why not double down on stupid rather than admit that maybe you were wrong four years ago.

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Agree that if people are saying this, others should listen. Am I right in understanding you are also voting in senators or similar during a presidential election? Can this be balanced by strongly supporting those with good recommendations from POC?

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I mean, what the actual fuck?

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My friends, most of whom are moderate like me, are super excited by her. Quite a number of them are mixed race, and they love that she “looks like the future”.

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Fun facts that might make you feel better about the future of US politics:

My kids, in now their second Presidential election, will have never voted for a Presidential ticket that didn’t include a woman.

My kids also have never voted for a ticket that was all white men, across four years of voting at the local, state, and federal levels.

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Yep. As someone on my FB feed pointed out, this is the first election I’ve participated in where I’m voting for a white man for president.

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oh, yeah!!

Umm, there hasn’t been another Brexit vote this year? Not a public one at any rate.

I’m not sure I’d expect the result to be different if there was another referendum, but I feel like that’s more out of a sense of the division it would cause and a desire to just get it done and move on to talking about something else, than because people are any more convinced its a good idea.

What ever the vote was in … 2019 maybe? Not 2020? that was seen as kind of a last ditch effort to say “maybe we don’t want to do Brexit after all”. I thought it was a vote by the people rather than within the government but I’m not finding it in a quick internet search.

Oh, you mean the general election? I mean it kind of was about Brexit, but the remain camp was split across several parties, and the labour leader at the time was kind of a mess, so it was hard to read that directly :slight_smile:

Ah okay. Thanks!

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