A US Election Thread Where We Will Be Nice to One Another (but not to seditionists)

Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham won though. :face_vomiting:

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Come ON, Michigan!!! Yahoo has T at 49.4% and B at 49.1% with 90% of votes counted. Other sites are probably different? But I really don’t want to see anything with T further ahead.

At least I can feel good that my county is one of the few that went Biden.

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It’s quite the mindfuck to watch MI flop back and forth by incredibly narrow margins.

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I hate it.

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I went to bed, disgusted, at 7:30. But I woke up to find that California’s Prop 22 has passed, so at least I still have a job today! And for me, that’s a big thing. Now I can work while the votes for president are being counted.

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I’m devastated about Iowa.
We’ve at least been somewhat purple…and now. It’s effing red. They aren’t even sure ANY of the 6 elections will go blue.

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Is that because covid and the desire now to be “hard on China” has made them forget how Trump’s trade war policies really fucked over farmers?

My guess, currently backed up by nothing more than my projection, is that this election is an ode to late stage identity politics.

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I don’t even know how much of Iowa is actually farmer’s anymore.
I know the representative who won in the district above mine was running on healthcare (that is, dismantling the ACA). She literally said, in the state legislature “I don’t think all Americans even want health insurance.”

I think people think the economy is great under Trump (this is a questionable claim to me. I mean, sure my stocks are doing nicely, but that’s about it.) I think they also think Trump is cutting their taxes, but I think they misunderstand how taxes work. What you pay at the end of the year vs. what was withheld all year long. Certainly, mine went up quite a bit. So it’s all about money and unborn babies?

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Someone tell me why the markets are so happy. Don’t they hate uncertainty? I expected a drop.

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My guess?

The markets think Biden has won, because that’s the most likely outcome right now.

The markets also think we’ll know who won either way by Friday - most likely sooner - as opposed to having a legal battle and waiting for weeks.

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What do you mean by “ode to late stage identity politics”?

Explain like I’m five?

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To be fair, pre-covid (and pre-trade war) the economy was great for a lot of people, not sure how much is attributable to Trump admin policies though, especially with the way the tariffs fucked a lot of people over. But all sorts of unemployment numbers, including minorities, were at record lows. There’s a number of black and latinx folks I know who are pro-Trump just because of that.

I think that’s a biggie. It does indeed look like clarity is coming faster than anticipated.

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Local elections are looking good here. I’m disappointed that we won’t be able to invest the long-term care insurance dollars, but accurate and inclusive sex ed in WA passed and OR decriminalized drugs.

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Oh, I’m being a little cheeky about the “late stage,” part, alluding to the growing popularity of the phrase “late stage capitalism.”

As for the identity politics, the nation has increasingly tied political party affiliation (or just who one votes for as president) to personal morality. Politics are no longer just someone’s opinion of the economy, etc, it’s who they are as a person. Changing your opinion on a thing - economy, welfare, healthcare, gay marriage - is much easier than changing how you fundamentally define yourself.

For anecdata, observe the “Is Trump A Relationship Deal Breaker.”

We, the gaywads have loosed the (possible) beast, and we’re just gonna have to see how that plays out.

@meerkat

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Prop 207 passed in AZ, we elected a democrat to Senate, and at the moment it looks like the state will go for Biden, too. Sweet! Never would have guessed it…

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Oh, yea, that makes a lot of sense! I think it’s also tied up in the increasing radicalization of politics. I think the “right” is worse on this than the “left” but both sides heavily tribalize and dehumanize the other…sometimes to scary degrees

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538 put the chance of a 269 split in the electoral college at <1 in 100, but the probability is still on the table*

*caveat, I still don’t totally understand how NE congressional district rules work.

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